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Anyone can be a teacher

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  • George KG Offline
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    Michigan House Bill 4294 “will temporarily allow schools to employ an individual without certification who already works at the school to substitute teach through the end of the 2021-2022 school year,” the governor’s office said in a press release Monday announcing the signing. That includes school staff such as secretaries, office staff, teacher’s aides, library aides, and even cafeteria workers and bus drivers, as long as they have a high school diploma or GED, FOX 2 Detroit reported.

    “Making sure every child in Michigan has access to a high-quality public education is my top priority, which is why this year we made the largest investment in K-12 public schools in Michigan history without raising taxes,” said Whitmer in the press release. “The pandemic has been challenging for our children, teachers, and parents, and our educators have gone above and beyond to ensure Michigan’s children have a bright future. Allowing schools to employ school staff that students know as substitute teachers will help keep school doors open and students learning in the classroom the rest of the school year. I am committed to working with the legislature to develop high-quality solutions to address these staff shortages long-term so that we can ensure that every child is able to access a quality education.”

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Away
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      Makes more sense than sending them home I guess. So many times subs are essentially child care.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG Offline
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        Here's a radical idea - more kids in a class.

        In elementary school, it was rare to have less than 40 kids in a room at once. In fact, in my elementary school 4th and 5th grades shared a classroom and teacher. I remember counting 55 kids in the room.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Not a bad thing to be exposed to worldviews from the bus drivers, custodial staff, and the lunch lady’s perspectives, I suppose.

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            Not a bad thing to be exposed to worldviews from the bus drivers, custodial staff, and the lunch lady’s perspectives, I suppose.

            George KG Offline
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            @axtremus said in Anyone can be a teacher:

            worldviews from the bus drivers, custodial staff, and the lunch lady’s perspectives

            I'm sure that many 5 and 6 year olds will take those lessons to heart.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @axtremus said in Anyone can be a teacher:

              worldviews from the bus drivers, custodial staff, and the lunch lady’s perspectives

              I'm sure that many 5 and 6 year olds will take those lessons to heart.

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              @george-k said in Anyone can be a teacher:

              @axtremus said in Anyone can be a teacher:

              worldviews from the bus drivers, custodial staff, and the lunch lady’s perspectives

              I'm sure that many 5 and 6 year olds will take those lessons to heart.

              I'm sure they can spell "worldview," too.

              Please love yourself.

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                If the bus driver is of indigenous descent, they could gather the children in a circle and share stories of their ancestors in the lost tradition of wisdom sharing common to their people hundreds of years ago.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  This is Detroit. The janitors will likely do a better job than the teacher’s union

                  The Brad

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Been doing that a long time in Louisiana. Certainly, one does not have to have a college degree. Those type of subs are short term and don't need to know a whole lot, other than to hand out pre-prepared stuff and keep order in the classroom.

                    Long term subs are a different matter.

                    But while I'm on the subject...Many jobs are overeducated for the actual task. I think a K-6 teacher could very easily be produced in a 24-month program. Back to the future, and reinstitute Normal Schools.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      My private elementary school had 50 students per class.

                      They were all well behaved, or else.

                      Today a public school probably can't handle more than 20. There would be too many behavior problems.

                      A 6th grade public school teacher friend, recently told me he had 3 students in his class that could not read.

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                        Custodians can have an influence...

                        *The most surprising indication of kindness I’ve ever come across in my admissions career came from a student who went to a large public school in New England. He was clearly bright, as evidenced by his class rank and teachers’ praise. He had a supportive recommendation from his college counselor and an impressive list of extracurriculars. Even with these qualifications, he might not have stood out. But one letter of recommendation caught my eye. It was from a school custodian.

                        Letters of recommendation are typically superfluous, written by people who the applicant thinks will impress a school. We regularly receive letters from former presidents, celebrities, trustee relatives and Olympic athletes. But they generally fail to provide us with another angle on who the student is, or could be as a member of our community.

                        This letter was different.

                        The custodian wrote that he was compelled to support this student’s candidacy because of his thoughtfulness. This young man was the only person in the school who knew the names of every member of the janitorial staff. He turned off lights in empty rooms, consistently thanked the hallway monitor each morning and tidied up after his peers even if nobody was watching. This student, the custodian wrote, had a refreshing respect for every person at the school, regardless of position, popularity or clout.

                        Over 15 years and 30,000 applications in my admissions career, I had never seen a recommendation from a school custodian. It gave us a window onto a student’s life in the moments when nothing “counted.” That student was admitted by unanimous vote of the admissions committee.

                        There are so many talented applicants and precious few spots. We know how painful this must be for students. As someone who was rejected by the school where I ended up as a director of admissions, I know firsthand how devastating the words “we regret to inform you” can be.

                        Until admissions committees figure out a way to effectively recognize the genuine but intangible personal qualities of applicants, we must rely on little things to make the difference. Sometimes an inappropriate email address is more telling than a personal essay. The way a student acts toward his parents on a campus tour can mean as much as a standardized test score. And, as I learned from that custodian, a sincere character evaluation from someone unexpected will mean more to us than any boilerplate recommendation from a former president or famous golfer.

                        Next year there might be a flood of custodian recommendations thanks to this essay. But if it means students will start paying as much attention to the people who clean their classrooms as they do to their principals and teachers, I’m happy to help start that trend.

                        Colleges should foster the growth of individuals who show promise not just in leadership and academics, but also in generosity of spirit. Since becoming a mom, I’ve also been looking at applications differently. I can’t help anticipating my son’s own dive into the college admissions frenzy 17 years from now.

                        Whether or not he even decides to go to college when the time is right, I want him to resemble a person thoughtful enough to return a granola bar, and gracious enough to respect every person in his community.*

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