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  • M Mik
    12 Dec 2021, 23:40

    My daughter is seeing it tonight. On imax.

    To call it a dated property is to deny the show’s groundbreaking legacy and style. If this movie serves to open a couple more generations’ eyes to it it will be successful. You might as well call La Boheme dated.

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    George K
    wrote on 12 Dec 2021, 23:45 last edited by
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    @mik said in West Side Story:

    My daughter is seeing it tonight. On imax.

    I'll be interested to hear her thoughts. She has a different eye than the rest of us, to be sure.

    You might as well call La Boheme dated

    I saw another column about the movie is a cheesy throwback. Yeah, great tunes, but the story and the setting? C'mon, man!

    Now, that's not to say I agree with that, at all. I just find it fascinating how one of the masterpieces of American musical theater is getting sort of panned, almost 70 years after its debut.

    What next, Oklahoma?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 12 Dec 2021, 23:56 last edited by
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      Spielberg is out of new ideas.

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        Klaus
        wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 00:03 last edited by
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        The main thing I appreciate about West Side Story is that "Maria" is my go to memory aid for what a tritone sounds like.

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          13 Dec 2021, 00:03

          The main thing I appreciate about West Side Story is that "Maria" is my go to memory aid for what a tritone sounds like.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 00:04 last edited by
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          @klaus said in West Side Story:

          The main thing I appreciate about West Side Story is that "Maria" is my go to memory aid for what a tritone sounds like.

          Yep… Was even taught that in ear training in college…

          The Brad

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            George K
            wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 00:24 last edited by
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            https://www.fromscoretostage.com/post/2017/05/17/west-side-story-the-tritone-and-the-7th

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Copper
              wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 00:44 last edited by
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              The local newspaper critic loved it.

              He loved Spielberg, he loved the music, he loved the changes that Spielberg made from the original.

              He couldn’t say enough good things about it.

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              • C Copper
                13 Dec 2021, 00:44

                The local newspaper critic loved it.

                He loved Spielberg, he loved the music, he loved the changes that Spielberg made from the original.

                He couldn’t say enough good things about it.

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                George K
                wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 00:47 last edited by
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                @copper said in West Side Story:

                The local newspaper critic loved it.
                He loved Spielberg, he loved the music, he loved the changes that Spielberg made from the original.
                He couldn’t say enough good things about it.

                Good.

                I saw a live production about 5 years ago that was great. Mrs. George didn't like it because...well it doesn't have a happy ending, LOL.

                She's never read R&J.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  13 Dec 2021, 00:47

                  @copper said in West Side Story:

                  The local newspaper critic loved it.
                  He loved Spielberg, he loved the music, he loved the changes that Spielberg made from the original.
                  He couldn’t say enough good things about it.

                  Good.

                  I saw a live production about 5 years ago that was great. Mrs. George didn't like it because...well it doesn't have a happy ending, LOL.

                  She's never read R&J.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 03:59 last edited by
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                  @george-k said in West Side Story:

                  She's never read R&J.

                  Maybe Disney should make a feature length R&J animation and give it a Disney signature happy ending.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 14 Dec 2021, 02:25 last edited by
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                    I would like to see it. I really like musicals, but have never see the original West Side Story

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 14 Dec 2021, 02:40 last edited by Copper
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                      Disney has made several movies where the young couple's families don't approve.

                      But they also make a lot of movies where the parents are killed and the heroes are orphaned. So there is no family left to disapprove.

                      I can't think of one where the young couple doesn't make it to the happy ending.

                      Then I just found this:

                      Disney’s 20th Century Studios has picked up a script for a new comedy based on “Romeo & Juliet”. Deadline is reporting that Kaitlyn Dever is attached to star in the film and Karen Maine has been tapped to direct the film.

                      A comedy based on R&J?

                      https://whatsondisneyplus.com/20th-century-developing-revisionist-romeo-juliet-film-rosaline/

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                        13 Dec 2021, 03:59

                        @george-k said in West Side Story:

                        She's never read R&J.

                        Maybe Disney should make a feature length R&J animation and give it a Disney signature happy ending.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 14 Dec 2021, 04:09 last edited by
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                        @axtremus said in West Side Story:

                        @george-k said in West Side Story:

                        She's never read R&J.

                        Maybe Disney should make a feature length R&J animation and give it a Disney signature happy ending.

                        A space battle wouldn't hurt, either. Or maybe a massive shark or a bloke with a whip. Anything to take my mind off all the bloody singing.

                        I was only joking

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 14 Dec 2021, 04:13 last edited by
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                          I watched Spielberg’s “West Side Story” (2021).

                          Expertly crafted, expertly produced? Yes.
                          Need to watch it on a big screen? No.
                          Need to watch it now? No.
                          Better audio and better video than the 1961 movie? Yes, the technology has had 60 years to improve, afterall.
                          Better music/dance performances than the 1961 movie? Not obvious that they are.
                          The set designs, in many slum scenes, look more like “stage” than “movie.” Probably deliberate because one has got to believe that Spielberg can create stupendously realistic-looking movie sets if he really wants to.

                          This is a “musical” after all, so let’s talk about the music and dance performances. They are very well executed, really. Not obviously better than 1961, but very good nonetheless. Really like the energy of the many dance numbers. Ariana DeBose/Anita delivered knockout performances. Singing is good too, though I kept hoping that when Rachel Segler/Maria breaks into soprano that she would retain more of the Puerto Rican accent that’s supposed to be native for the character.

                          No need to rush to the movie theater to watch it, waiting for it to become available on streaming services and watching on a tablet should be just fine. All in all, an enjoyable movie.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 27 Dec 2021, 03:14 last edited by
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                            Poor box office performance:
                            https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/26/west-side-story-is-officially-a-box-office-bomb.html

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 27 Dec 2021, 03:22 last edited by
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                              As I said, not enough explosions

                              I was only joking

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 3 Mar 2022, 22:30 last edited by
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                                West Side Story is now on Disney+

                                Watch without a mask!

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                                • M Mik
                                  12 Dec 2021, 23:40

                                  My daughter is seeing it tonight. On imax.

                                  To call it a dated property is to deny the show’s groundbreaking legacy and style. If this movie serves to open a couple more generations’ eyes to it it will be successful. You might as well call La Boheme dated.

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on 3 Mar 2022, 22:54 last edited by Catseye3 3 Mar 2022, 22:55
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                                  @Mik

                                  +1

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 6 Mar 2022, 03:33 last edited by
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                                    Better technology, too much really, it was distracting

                                    I remember the 50s, it didn't really feel like that, the photography was modern Hollywood. I guess it is fair for a modern Hollywood picture to look like modern Hollywood, but it isn't what I wanted.

                                    I liked the fact that it didn't hit me over the head with woke, that is hard to find on Disney these days

                                    The music was terrific, the vocals ok, just ok

                                    Rita Moreno vs Doc? Doc wins, but Ms. Moreno did nice work

                                    Krupke? The original wins

                                    The tomboy becomes trans? OK, that does it, that is a mistake, that is just plain stupid. Idiots

                                    Fortunately I didn't have any expectation, so I'm not really disappointed.

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