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The End of Hong Kong?

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/21/china-proposes-controversial-national-security-law-for-hong-kong

    “ China plans to push through sweeping national security laws for Hong Kong at its annual meeting of parliament, in a move that critics say will effectively end the territory’s autonomy.
    ...”

    China security law 'could be end of Hong Kong'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-52762291

    Not surprised that the CCP would some day pull a stunt like this, still sad. 😢

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      Never let a crisis....

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        I need to borrow George's shocked face...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          I need to borrow George's shocked face...

          George KG Offline
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          @Jolly said in The End of Hong Kong?:

          I need to borrow George's shocked face...

          ...again.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #5

            It’ll be interesting to see how far they take it.

            Like will they get rid of visa free travel from the west? Seems they’d want it to remain a hub for western banks.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              #6

              But sad, I agree.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                It's gonna be ugly for everyone in the world, but I for one look forward to the China bubble bursting.

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                • X xenon

                  It's gonna be ugly for everyone in the world, but I for one look forward to the China bubble bursting.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @xenon said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                  It's gonna be ugly for everyone in the world, but I for one look forward to the China bubble bursting.

                  That's so 1989.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #9

                    Their demographics are backwards and it’s tough moving past their current “low hanging fruit” strategy of low skill factory workers.

                    Their PPP growth has been lower than the U.S.:
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                    They’re due for a reckoning

                    Remember how scary Japan was

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                      Japan didn't have nukes.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #11

                        Or a communist regime.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          its Up to the protesters to do what they did in the past. The world would certainly watch that.

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                            its Up to the protesters to do what they did in the past. The world would certainly watch that.

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                            @Loki said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                            its Up to the protesters to do what they did in the past. The world would certainly watch that.

                            Applying that same logic to Poland about 80 years ago would not have aged well, to paraphrase George.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @Loki said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                              its Up to the protesters to do what they did in the past. The world would certainly watch that.

                              Applying that same logic to Poland about 80 years ago would not have aged well, to paraphrase George.

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                              Loki
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                              @Loki said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                              its Up to the protesters to do what they did in the past. The world would certainly watch that.

                              Applying that same logic to Poland about 80 years ago would not have aged well, to paraphrase George.

                              I wonder if China is betting that with coronavirus you won’t get the same level of protests.

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                              • L Loki

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                                @Loki said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                                its Up to the protesters to do what they did in the past. The world would certainly watch that.

                                Applying that same logic to Poland about 80 years ago would not have aged well, to paraphrase George.

                                I wonder if China is betting that with coronavirus you won’t get the same level of protests.

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                                @Loki

                                If they are, then I think they underestimate. People that I have talked to from HK are pretty "fired up" about this.

                                On another interesting note, when the China assembly was giving a speech yesterday regarding Taiwan, they mentioned "reunification", but in unlike the last 30 years or so, they did use the term "peaceful reunification".

                                However, in a note from Taiwan MOFA, we were told not to think too much about this and no major implication should be made from this.

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                                  Mass Exodus from Hong Kong

                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/27/people-are-leaving-hong-kong-and-here-is-where-they-are-going.html

                                  Singapore seems to be the destination of choice for those who leave Hong Kong.

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    Mass Exodus from Hong Kong

                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/27/people-are-leaving-hong-kong-and-here-is-where-they-are-going.html

                                    Singapore seems to be the destination of choice for those who leave Hong Kong.

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                                    @Axtremus said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                                    Mass Exodus from Hong Kong

                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/27/people-are-leaving-hong-kong-and-here-is-where-they-are-going.html

                                    Singapore seems to be the destination of choice for those who leave Hong Kong.

                                    Who didn't know this was inevitable when the UK ceded HK, which was agreed to remain status quo for 50 years?

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                                    • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                                      @Axtremus said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                                      Mass Exodus from Hong Kong

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/27/people-are-leaving-hong-kong-and-here-is-where-they-are-going.html

                                      Singapore seems to be the destination of choice for those who leave Hong Kong.

                                      Who didn't know this was inevitable when the UK ceded HK, which was agreed to remain status quo for 50 years?

                                      JollyJ Offline
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                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @Ivorythumper said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                                      @Axtremus said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                                      Mass Exodus from Hong Kong

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/27/people-are-leaving-hong-kong-and-here-is-where-they-are-going.html

                                      Singapore seems to be the destination of choice for those who leave Hong Kong.

                                      Who didn't know this was inevitable when the UK ceded HK, which was agreed to remain status quo for 50 years?

                                      Nobody in their right mind.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                                        @Axtremus said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                                        Mass Exodus from Hong Kong

                                        https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/27/people-are-leaving-hong-kong-and-here-is-where-they-are-going.html

                                        Singapore seems to be the destination of choice for those who leave Hong Kong.

                                        Who didn't know this was inevitable when the UK ceded HK, which was agreed to remain status quo for 50 years?

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                        @Ivorythumper said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                                        @Axtremus said in The End of Hong Kong?:

                                        Mass Exodus from Hong Kong

                                        https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/27/people-are-leaving-hong-kong-and-here-is-where-they-are-going.html

                                        Singapore seems to be the destination of choice for those who leave Hong Kong.

                                        Who didn't know this was inevitable when the UK ceded HK, which was agreed to remain status quo for 50 years?

                                        Henry, the mild mannered janitor?

                                        I was only joking

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