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  • MikM Mik

    Impeding your playing?

    George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #3

    @Mik said in Triggered:

    Impeding your playing?

    Yup. Pain, mostly. The mobility is not much of an issue (I've always played with pretty curved, not flat, fingers).

    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      #4

      Damn. Will this get better?

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      • KlausK Klaus

        Damn. Will this get better?

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        George K
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        @Klaus said in Triggered:

        Damn. Will this get better?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_finger

        Splinting, non-steroidal anti inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), and corticosteroid injections are regarded as conservative first-line treatments for stenosing tenosynovitis. However, NSAIDs have been found to be ineffective by themselves. Early treatment of trigger thumb has been associated with better treatment outcomes. Surgical treatment of trigger thumb can be complicated by injury to the digital nerves, scarring, tenderness, or a contracture of the joint. A higher rate of symptom improvement has been observed when surgical management is paired with corticosteroid injections when compared to corticosteroid injections alone.

        Treatment consists of injection of a corticosteroid such as methylprednisolone often combined with a local anesthetic (lidocaine) at the site of maximal inflammation or tenderness around the A1 pulley of the finger in the palm. The infiltration of the affected site can be performed using standard anatomic landmarks or sonographically guided, and often needs to be repeated 2 or three times to achieve remission. An irreducibly locked trigger, often associated with a flexion contracture of the PIP joint, should not be treated by injections.

        Injection of the tendon sheath with a corticosteroid is effective over weeks to months in more than half of people.

        When corticosteroid injection fails, the problem is predictably resolved by a relatively simple surgical procedure (usually outpatient, under local anesthesia). The surgeon will cut the sheath that is restricting the tendon.

        One study suggests that the most cost-effective treatment is two trials of corticosteroid injection, followed by open release of the first annular pulley. Choosing surgery immediately is the most expensive option and is often not necessary for resolution of symptoms.[11] A 2009 Cochrane review of corticosteroid injection for trigger finger found only two pseudo-randomized controlled trials for a total pooled success rate of only 37%.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Or you could just wait until the other 3 behave like the middle.

          Then they'll be back in synch.

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          • George KG George K

            @Klaus said in Triggered:

            Damn. Will this get better?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_finger

            Splinting, non-steroidal anti inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), and corticosteroid injections are regarded as conservative first-line treatments for stenosing tenosynovitis. However, NSAIDs have been found to be ineffective by themselves. Early treatment of trigger thumb has been associated with better treatment outcomes. Surgical treatment of trigger thumb can be complicated by injury to the digital nerves, scarring, tenderness, or a contracture of the joint. A higher rate of symptom improvement has been observed when surgical management is paired with corticosteroid injections when compared to corticosteroid injections alone.

            Treatment consists of injection of a corticosteroid such as methylprednisolone often combined with a local anesthetic (lidocaine) at the site of maximal inflammation or tenderness around the A1 pulley of the finger in the palm. The infiltration of the affected site can be performed using standard anatomic landmarks or sonographically guided, and often needs to be repeated 2 or three times to achieve remission. An irreducibly locked trigger, often associated with a flexion contracture of the PIP joint, should not be treated by injections.

            Injection of the tendon sheath with a corticosteroid is effective over weeks to months in more than half of people.

            When corticosteroid injection fails, the problem is predictably resolved by a relatively simple surgical procedure (usually outpatient, under local anesthesia). The surgeon will cut the sheath that is restricting the tendon.

            One study suggests that the most cost-effective treatment is two trials of corticosteroid injection, followed by open release of the first annular pulley. Choosing surgery immediately is the most expensive option and is often not necessary for resolution of symptoms.[11] A 2009 Cochrane review of corticosteroid injection for trigger finger found only two pseudo-randomized controlled trials for a total pooled success rate of only 37%.

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            Loki
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            #7

            Surgery often works great and is no biggie, if it comes to that. I know someone who has had three of those and hands work great.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              I'm not all that concerned. This is more of a PITA than anything serious.

              D2 was worried whether I could still extend the middle finger independently. I assured her it's not a problem.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
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                So, I've had two injections. Playing the piano is painful, so I've been avoiding.

                The second one was in March of this year. I got good relief until 6 weeks ago. The finger started acting up, this time with more pain than actual "locking up."

                I saw my hand surgeon yesterday, and after examining me, he says that another injection (I've had two, you're allowed three) probably won't do anything.

                I need an operation.

                It's really a nothing - done under local anesthesia and there's no rehab, PT, restriction of activity, etc. The only thing is to keep it clean and to keep mobility up.

                Gonna schedule for after the holidays.

                Damn...

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
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                  #10

                  Crap. Hope it goes well. I've been going back to the piano lately, but doing mostly exercises for my weak area, timing.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #11

                    Mrs. George had the surgical release about a month ago.

                    It's really nothing more than a PITA.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      I'm not all that concerned. This is more of a PITA than anything serious.

                      D2 was worried whether I could still extend the middle finger independently. I assured her it's not a problem.

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                      @george-k said in Triggered:

                      I'm not all that concerned. This is more of a PITA than anything serious.

                      D2 was worried whether I could still extend the middle finger independently. I assured her it's not a problem.

                      "Hold on."
                      "What?"
                      "I need to show you something, it's important. Let me just get my hand loosened up and there, there we go. Fuck you."

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @george-k said in Triggered:

                        I'm not all that concerned. This is more of a PITA than anything serious.

                        D2 was worried whether I could still extend the middle finger independently. I assured her it's not a problem.

                        "Hold on."
                        "What?"
                        "I need to show you something, it's important. Let me just get my hand loosened up and there, there we go. Fuck you."

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                        George K
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                        #13

                        @aqua-letifer said in Triggered:

                        "Hold on."
                        "What?"
                        "I need to show you something, it's important. Let me just get my hand loosened up and there, there we go. Fuck you."

                        I was going to post something along those lines, but you beat me to it, with a post that clearly surpasses ANYTHING I could have come up with.

                        ETA: By the way, I get along very well with this surgeon. And I pretty much did exactly that when he suggested surgery.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Jolly
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                          #14

                          Is he a social finger surgical specialist?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            George K
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                            IMG_1171 copy.JPG

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Has your ability to flip the bird with that hand returned?

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                Has your ability to flip the bird with that hand returned?

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                #17

                                @axtremus

                                IMG_1172 copy.jpeg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Glad you have good and needed finger useage again, George. LOL

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @axtremus

                                    IMG_1172 copy.jpeg

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                                    @george-k 😂 😂 😂

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @axtremus

                                      IMG_1172 copy.jpeg

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                                      @george-k said in Triggered:

                                      @axtremus

                                      IMG_1172 copy.jpeg

                                      V for victory!

                                      Oh, wait……

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #21

                                        So success???

                                        🤞

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          So success???

                                          🤞

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                                          George K
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Triggered:

                                          So success???

                                          🤞

                                          Surgeon put in long-acting local. 5 hours later, index & middle with no sensation. Should get another 4-6 hours out of it.

                                          Of course no pain, lol.

                                          Transition to bandaid tomorrow and will know more.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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