Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?
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@lufins-dad wow…
“ The same people who lecture us endlessly about the need to support the system and not question the results of elections lest we imperil democracy were quick to throw the concepts of trial by jury and innocent until proven guilty under the bus.”
@george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
@lufins-dad wow…
“ The same people who lecture us endlessly about the need to support the system and not question the results of elections lest we imperil democracy were quick to throw the concepts of trial by jury and innocent until proven guilty under the bus.”
This is what the emotion of righteousness does to the human psyche.
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@lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
So do we get to call of these idiots "Trial Deniers, Insurrectionists, and the greatest existential threat to the rule of law"?
Yes. Absolutely.
Jan 6 participants were dabbling with eroding our election process, but I'll allow that most of them got caught up in some unplanned bullshit and didn't really have any organization.
This is more subtle in that no gates are being stormed, but we're honestly talking about the righteousness of exposing jurors to dangerous fanatics, circumventing a court decision, and attacking a defendant because the moral mob didn't like what happened. What are the odds this kid can go to school? Get a job? Not get shot in public? This shit is worse in terms of the damage it's doing to civil society. It's easily worse.
@aqua-letifer said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
@lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
So do we get to call of these idiots "Trial Deniers, Insurrectionists, and the greatest existential threat to the rule of law"?
Yes. Absolutely.
Jan 6 participants were dabbling with eroding our election process, but I'll allow that most of them got caught up in some unplanned bullshit and didn't really have any organization.
This is more subtle in that no gates are being stormed, but we're honestly talking about the righteousness of exposing jurors to dangerous fanatics, circumventing a court decision, and attacking a defendant because the moral mob didn't like what happened. What are the odds this kid can go to school? Get a job? Not get shot in public? This shit is worse in terms of the damage it's doing to civil society. It's easily worse.
Absolutely. Much worse.
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@lufins-dad wow…
“ The same people who lecture us endlessly about the need to support the system and not question the results of elections lest we imperil democracy were quick to throw the concepts of trial by jury and innocent until proven guilty under the bus.”
@george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
@lufins-dad wow…
“ The same people who lecture us endlessly about the need to support the system and not question the results of elections lest we imperil democracy were quick to throw the concepts of trial by jury and innocent until proven guilty under the bus.”
You think the two mind-sets are unconnected?
It takes two to tango. Trump and AOC have more in common than their supporters would admit.
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What POTUS news said:
In a longer statement issued by the White House a short time later, Biden said, "While the verdict in Kenosha will leave many Americans feeling angry and concerned, myself included, we must acknowledge that the jury has spoken."
He added that "I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law. Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."
He is ANGRY with the jury verdict? I guess he thinks they acted "stupidly."
Presumably he was pulled away from his warm milk and nap by his handlers and told what to say, because he would not have stayed awake long enough to watch the actual trial.
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Maybe be he should ask the AG to not certify the verdict? Oh, wait…
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Tiffany Cross, MSNBC: “this little murderous white supremacist”
Look for the helpers…
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Tiffany Cross, MSNBC: “this little murderous white supremacist”
Look for the helpers…
@lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
Tiffany Cross, MSNBC: “this little murderous white supremacist”
Look for the helpers…
That sound you hear? That's Nick Sandmann offering advice.
I wonder how strong a defamation case he has. I've read that he's allegedly a "public figure" so the bar is higher.
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A lawsuit doesn’t stop this degradation of the American Psyche. She’s saying it because most of her viewers believe it. A lawsuit isn’t going to stop that. And yes, Horace there are those on the right that are just as bad. I point to the two Reps offering Congressional Internships to Rittenhouse.
The Brad
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This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.
The Brad
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A lawsuit doesn’t stop this degradation of the American Psyche. She’s saying it because most of her viewers believe it. A lawsuit isn’t going to stop that. And yes, Horace there are those on the right that are just as bad. I point to the two Reps offering Congressional Internships to Rittenhouse.
@lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
A lawsuit doesn’t stop this degradation of the American Psyche. She’s saying it because most of her viewers believe it. A lawsuit isn’t going to stop that. And yes, Horace there are those on the right that are just as bad. I point to the two Reps offering Congressional Internships to Rittenhouse.
An internship offer is as bad as an entire political establishment reinforcing the idea in the heads of the masses that the judicial branch of government is hopelessly rigged based on skin color?
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This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.
@lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.
It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.
It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.
@jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
@lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.
It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.
Well the mayhem they're going to cause is going to lead to an assload of ratings for the short period of time that we continue to have an infrastructure.
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@lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.
It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.
@jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
@lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.
It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.
At the danger of repeating myself once again, the US needs to tighten up the laws regarding the reporting of criminal cases.
Journalists who attempt to follow a juror home should go to jail.
Taking cameras out of the court room wouldn’t hurt, either. The media and a lot of the public are treating this like reality TV.
Complaining isn’t going to fix this.
I was only joking
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It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.
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It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.
@horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:
It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.
The end result is actual racism.
The Brad
