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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 00:25 last edited by jon-nyc
    #114

    I remember last time he had some great inside scoop and it turned out to be bullshit it came out in the discussion here that he does this stuff a lot. He works/worked at OANN, so that's a feature not a bug in terms of his career.

    But I don't remember all the details, I'm sure google does.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • J jon-nyc
      17 Nov 2021, 00:13

      Yeah I’m really invested in making sure BLM activists don’t come off as intimidating jurors.

      That should be obvious to everyone who watched me reflexively defend them from Furguson to Portland.

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      Horace
      wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 00:28 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

      Yeah I’m really invested in making sure BLM activists don’t come off as intimidating jurors.

      That should be obvious to everyone who watched me reflexively defend them from Furguson to Portland.

      I bet you've even catalogued in your head that one time you said something negative about the Biden administration.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • H Horace
        17 Nov 2021, 00:05

        @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

        @Horace

        It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

        Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

        As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

        Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

        I didn't claim he was speaking the truth. Pre-TDS jon 1.0 had better reading comprehension than that. My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 00:29 last edited by jon-nyc
        #116

        @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

        My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

        By the way, I have a 12 year old so I am fully aware of the lure of "I know you are but what am I". But not only am I willing to engage in discussions of the possibility, I said as much in the post you are responding to.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        • J jon-nyc
          17 Nov 2021, 00:29

          @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

          By the way, I have a 12 year old so I am fully aware of the lure of "I know you are but what am I". But not only am I willing to engage in discussions of the possibility, I said as much in the post you are responding to.

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          Horace
          wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 00:33 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

          By the way, I have a 12 year old so I am fully aware of the lure of "I know you are but what am I". But not only am I willing to engage in discussions of the possibility, I said as much in the post you are responding to.

          Yes, it's plausible, and a reasonable person would reach the conclusion that retribution is on the minds of the jurors. Which is entirely the fault of the culture of the left.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • J jon-nyc
            16 Nov 2021, 23:21

            @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

            I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 01:37 last edited by
            #118

            @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

            @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

            I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

            In this case, it's very believable. This jury has not been sequestered. They are local people who watched their town burn to the tune of $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots. There are National Guard troops guarding the courthouse. There are "activists" panting to doxx them and their families.

            The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

            What do you think?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J Jolly
              17 Nov 2021, 01:37

              @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

              I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

              In this case, it's very believable. This jury has not been sequestered. They are local people who watched their town burn to the tune of $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots. There are National Guard troops guarding the courthouse. There are "activists" panting to doxx them and their families.

              The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

              What do you think?

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              George K
              wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 01:42 last edited by George K
              #119

              @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

              I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

              $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots.

              I heard $50,000,000.

              https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million

              The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

              Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                17 Nov 2021, 01:42

                @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots.

                I heard $50,000,000.

                https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million

                The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 01:49 last edited by
                #120

                @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots.

                I heard $50,000,000.

                https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million

                The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

                You are correct. Biden called him a white supremacist. I thought he had said Rittenhouse murdered two people, but I can't find it.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  17 Nov 2021, 01:49

                  @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                  I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                  $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots.

                  I heard $50,000,000.

                  https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million

                  The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                  Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

                  You are correct. Biden called him a white supremacist. I thought he had said Rittenhouse murdered two people, but I can't find it.

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                  Ivorythumper
                  wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 02:30 last edited by
                  #121

                  @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  d said Rittenhouse murdered two people, b

                  It was CBS who tweeted the Rittenhouse being a murderer. Biden claimed Rittenhouse was a member of a militia from Illinois.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 02:42 last edited by
                    #122

                    Shame they couldn't bring Rosenbaum's past record up in the trial...The jury may not have liked the fact he sodomized children...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      kluurs
                      wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 04:28 last edited by
                      #123

                      What is a shame is that regardless of the outcome of the trial
                      RIttenhouse won't be able to enjoy some of what should be the best years of his life in joyous anonymity

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 06:58 last edited by
                        #124

                        His legal bills for November have already exceeded $100k.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          17 Nov 2021, 06:58

                          His legal bills for November have already exceeded $100k.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 08:21 last edited by
                          #125

                          @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                          His legal bills for November have already exceeded $100k.

                          And his defense fund was already sitting at $500K

                          The Brad

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                            17 Nov 2021, 08:21

                            @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                            His legal bills for November have already exceeded $100k.

                            And his defense fund was already sitting at $500K

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 12:25 last edited by
                            #126

                            @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                            @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                            His legal bills for November have already exceeded $100k.

                            And his defense fund was already sitting at $500K

                            Don't know how much of it he has. The figure I gave was just for the first 15 days of the month. As I understand it, that includes no expenses prior.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 12:44 last edited by
                              #127

                              I'll say it again, America needs better laws coverage reporting of criminal cases.

                              This is like reality TV.

                              I was only joking

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                              • G George K
                                17 Nov 2021, 01:42

                                @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots.

                                I heard $50,000,000.

                                https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million

                                The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                                Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 12:55 last edited by
                                #128

                                @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

                                That’s progress!

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  16 Nov 2021, 23:21

                                  @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                  I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 13:04 last edited by
                                  #129

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                  I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                  Screen Shot 2021-11-17 at 7.03.13 AM.png

                                  https://news.gab.com/2020/11/28/who-is-gab-founder-andrew-torba/

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    17 Nov 2021, 13:04

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                    @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                    I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                    Screen Shot 2021-11-17 at 7.03.13 AM.png

                                    https://news.gab.com/2020/11/28/who-is-gab-founder-andrew-torba/

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 13:36 last edited by
                                    #130

                                    @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                    @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                    I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                    Screen Shot 2021-11-17 at 7.03.13 AM.png

                                    https://news.gab.com/2020/11/28/who-is-gab-founder-andrew-torba/

                                    https://newrepublic.com/article/163285/andrew-torba-gab-white-christian-internet

                                    Featured in a recent newsletter by Andrew Torba, the CEO and co-founder of parent company Gab AI, the video, down to its title, perfectly expresses Gab’s editorial line: a mix of faux expertise (Paul is a former eye surgeon), populist outrage, and selective analytical insight that invariably lands in a place where the elites are lying to you, America has lost its way, and white Christian values are under attack. The video also signifies Torba’s own rising profile as a right-wing, Christian (he signs all of his newsletter posts “Jesus is King”),

                                    Where is the signature?

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 13:37 last edited by
                                      #131

                                      I thought Jesus was the Prince of Peace? You can't be freaking both.

                                      Americans get so confused by royalty.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • D Doctor Phibes
                                        17 Nov 2021, 13:37

                                        I thought Jesus was the Prince of Peace? You can't be freaking both.

                                        Americans get so confused by royalty.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 13:46 last edited by
                                        #132

                                        @doctor-phibes said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        I thought Jesus was the Prince of Peace? You can't be freaking both.

                                        No, I can't be always and everywhere either.

                                        That's why I'm down here and He is up there.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 13:51 last edited by
                                          #133

                                          Turley:

                                          The defense filed a new motion for dismissal alleging that the prosecution withheld key video evidence. The defense was given a 3.6MB video while the prosecution used a 11.2MB. The larger file was not provided to the defense "until after the trial concluded."

                                          Given the continual complaints over the "grainy" quality of videos, the withholding of a high def version is astonishing. However this case has been continual train wreck of evidentiary and tactical failures.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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