Flynn: Overthrow the government

[taiwan_girl]

[xenon]

The real loser in this? The institution of American General. Sheesh.

[Copper]

One of George Washington's favorite generals was a man named Benedict Arnold.

That institution has seen a little bit of everything.

[kluurs]

@george-k said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@jon-nyc I used to have a fair amount of respect for Flynn. I thought, at the time, that he got railroaded. As a matter of fact, I still do.

But, for FUCK'S sake.

If you want to maintain any credibility, and I'm not sure he really cares any more, just don't do this shit.

It may sound radical, but Christianity is supposed to require a radical commitment. As for overthrowing the government, if the election was stolen, this would seem a reasonable strategy for setting the country back on its "true" path. The nation's founders overthrew the previous government, and it was suggested that this might be necessary again. Flynn appears to have taken that message to heart.

[LuFins Dad]

The process is the punishment. How badly did they break this guy in 2017?

[Jolly]

@lufins-dad said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

The process is the punishment. How badly did they break this guy in 2017?

Pretty bad. They wrecked him financially and broke him spiritually. Over pretty much nothing.

[George K]

@jolly said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

They wrecked him financially and broke him spiritually.

And Carter Page among others.

[Jolly]

Just the Swamp sending a message.

[Larry]

I completely agree with him.

So did the majority of American up until the screwballs took over the democrats.

The US used to be referred to as a Christian Naton that was open to all religions, or none at all. It was called religious freedom. With the Rise Of Stupidity wave that swept through leftwing ideology and set out to become a religion itself, it's adherents were trained to say "we were never a Christian Nation, even our Founding Fathers were Deists", with the conviction of righteous ignorance, actually believing that makes the claim "Christian Nation" go away.

Sorry, but it does not.

Back when people understood WHY the US was a Christian Nation, (the same way Taiwan is a Buddhist nation, Israel is a Jewish nation, Jordan is a Muslim nation, etc) we had religious freedom. You didn't HAVE to be a Christian, because all religions were accepted, and allowed to freely practice. Just as Israel is a Jewish nation, but all religions are accepted and allowed to freely practice. In Taiwan, same thing. In contrast, if you are caught practicing a religion other than Islam in most Muslim countries, you are put to death.

So yes, America needs to get back to calling itself a Christian Nation. Because if we don't, we will go from a nation with a religious identity that accepts all religions and allows them to practice freely with no particular religion forced on them, to a forced religion. I know that will be very difficult for democrats and the Left in general to understand, but that's because you've been so thoroughly brainwashed in how to think - by one of the religions that is actively trying it's best to become the government sanctioned religion itself.

[Larry]

@axtremus said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@jolly said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

I suspect they are a lot more worried about due process, fairness, equal treatment under the law, one man-one vote and the Deep State much more than you will ever be,

If they cared about any of that, they cared about them in the wrong way, The Jan.6 mob tried to invalidate the results of more than 150 million votes.

Worried about due process? Go protest against excessive use of force by and the militarization of the police.

Worried about fairness? Go protest against dark money in politics and the Citizens United decision.

Worried about equal treatment under the law? Go protest against profiling and discrimination by race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation.

Worried about one man-one vote? Go protest against gerrymandering.

Worried about “Deep State”? The last thing you should be doing is to encourage those who are already wield the state instrument to overturn the will of the people.

Nay, the Jan.6 mob was no defender of high principles, they were a violent cult of personality.

I'm sorry I read that. I could almost FEEL brain cells dying as I read it. The world is a dumber place because you wrote that, and apparently can't think any better than that.

I need a shower now.....

[xenon]

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

I completely agree with him.

So did the majority of American up until the screwballs took over the democrats.

The US used to be referred to as a Christian Naton that was open to all religions, or none at all. It was called religious freedom. With the Rise Of Stupidity wave that swept through leftwing ideology and set out to become a religion itself, it's adherents were trained to say "we were never a Christian Nation, even our Founding Fathers were Deists", with the conviction of righteous ignorance, actually believing that makes the claim "Christian Nation" go away.

Sorry, but it does not.

Back when people understood WHY the US was a Christian Nation, (the same way Taiwan is a Buddhist nation, Israel is a Jewish nation, Jordan is a Muslim nation, etc) we had religious freedom. You didn't HAVE to be a Christian, because all religions were accepted, and allowed to freely practice. Just as Israel is a Jewish nation, but all religions are accepted and allowed to freely practice. In Taiwan, same thing. In contrast, if you are caught practicing a religion other than Islam in most Muslim countries, you are put to death.

So yes, America needs to get back to calling itself a Christian Nation. Because if we don't, we will go from a nation with a religious identity that accepts all religions and allows them to practice freely with no particular religion forced on them, to a forced religion. I know that will be very difficult for democrats and the Left in general to understand, but that's because you've been so thoroughly brainwashed in how to think - by one of the religions that is actively trying it's best to become the government sanctioned religion itself.

If we’re not setting up a theocracy, then what’s a Christian Nation? Do the laws need to pass some sort of Christian test?

Or are you just saying you want more Christians in the county.

The Constitution doesn’t require any link with the Bible.

[Jolly]

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

I completely agree with him.

So did the majority of American up until the screwballs took over the democrats.

The US used to be referred to as a Christian Naton that was open to all religions, or none at all. It was called religious freedom. With the Rise Of Stupidity wave that swept through leftwing ideology and set out to become a religion itself, it's adherents were trained to say "we were never a Christian Nation, even our Founding Fathers were Deists", with the conviction of righteous ignorance, actually believing that makes the claim "Christian Nation" go away.

Sorry, but it does not.

Back when people understood WHY the US was a Christian Nation, (the same way Taiwan is a Buddhist nation, Israel is a Jewish nation, Jordan is a Muslim nation, etc) we had religious freedom. You didn't HAVE to be a Christian, because all religions were accepted, and allowed to freely practice. Just as Israel is a Jewish nation, but all religions are accepted and allowed to freely practice. In Taiwan, same thing. In contrast, if you are caught practicing a religion other than Islam in most Muslim countries, you are put to death.

So yes, America needs to get back to calling itself a Christian Nation. Because if we don't, we will go from a nation with a religious identity that accepts all religions and allows them to practice freely with no particular religion forced on them, to a forced religion. I know that will be very difficult for democrats and the Left in general to understand, but that's because you've been so thoroughly brainwashed in how to think - by one of the religions that is actively trying it's best to become the government sanctioned religion itself.

If we’re not setting up a theocracy, then what’s a Christian Nation? Do the laws need to pass some sort of Christian test?

Or are you just saying you want more Christians in the county.

The Constitution doesn’t require any link with the Bible.

The man said what he meant and if you can't understand, you're dumber than a box of hair.

[Renauda]

@george-k said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@jon-nyc I used to have a fair amount of respect for Flynn. I thought, at the time, that he got railroaded. As a matter of fact, I still do.

I agree, all he did was embarrass the VP when all he needed to say to the Democrats and media about his phone conversation with Kiselyov was tell them to piss up a rope, they don’t have a need to know. Instead he covered up and lied thus embarrassing the VP. . Trump had no choice but to let him go at the time. I do agree though with the presidential clemency grant. It was suitably appropriate.

This religious klanger though is amusing. I have to hand it to him, Flynn certainly knows how to back into the limelight rather than fade away like a good general soldier.

[Larry]

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

I completely agree with him.

So did the majority of American up until the screwballs took over the democrats.

The US used to be referred to as a Christian Naton that was open to all religions, or none at all. It was called religious freedom. With the Rise Of Stupidity wave that swept through leftwing ideology and set out to become a religion itself, it's adherents were trained to say "we were never a Christian Nation, even our Founding Fathers were Deists", with the conviction of righteous ignorance, actually believing that makes the claim "Christian Nation" go away.

Sorry, but it does not.

Back when people understood WHY the US was a Christian Nation, (the same way Taiwan is a Buddhist nation, Israel is a Jewish nation, Jordan is a Muslim nation, etc) we had religious freedom. You didn't HAVE to be a Christian, because all religions were accepted, and allowed to freely practice. Just as Israel is a Jewish nation, but all religions are accepted and allowed to freely practice. In Taiwan, same thing. In contrast, if you are caught practicing a religion other than Islam in most Muslim countries, you are put to death.

So yes, America needs to get back to calling itself a Christian Nation. Because if we don't, we will go from a nation with a religious identity that accepts all religions and allows them to practice freely with no particular religion forced on them, to a forced religion. I know that will be very difficult for democrats and the Left in general to understand, but that's because you've been so thoroughly brainwashed in how to think - by one of the religions that is actively trying it's best to become the government sanctioned religion itself.

If we’re not setting up a theocracy, then what’s a Christian Nation? Do the laws need to pass some sort of Christian test?

Or are you just saying you want more Christians in the county.

The Constitution doesn’t require any link with the Bible.

You completely, and utterly, failed to understand a single word I said.

[xenon]

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

I completely agree with him.

So did the majority of American up until the screwballs took over the democrats.

The US used to be referred to as a Christian Naton that was open to all religions, or none at all. It was called religious freedom. With the Rise Of Stupidity wave that swept through leftwing ideology and set out to become a religion itself, it's adherents were trained to say "we were never a Christian Nation, even our Founding Fathers were Deists", with the conviction of righteous ignorance, actually believing that makes the claim "Christian Nation" go away.

Sorry, but it does not.

Back when people understood WHY the US was a Christian Nation, (the same way Taiwan is a Buddhist nation, Israel is a Jewish nation, Jordan is a Muslim nation, etc) we had religious freedom. You didn't HAVE to be a Christian, because all religions were accepted, and allowed to freely practice. Just as Israel is a Jewish nation, but all religions are accepted and allowed to freely practice. In Taiwan, same thing. In contrast, if you are caught practicing a religion other than Islam in most Muslim countries, you are put to death.

So yes, America needs to get back to calling itself a Christian Nation. Because if we don't, we will go from a nation with a religious identity that accepts all religions and allows them to practice freely with no particular religion forced on them, to a forced religion. I know that will be very difficult for democrats and the Left in general to understand, but that's because you've been so thoroughly brainwashed in how to think - by one of the religions that is actively trying it's best to become the government sanctioned religion itself.

If we’re not setting up a theocracy, then what’s a Christian Nation? Do the laws need to pass some sort of Christian test?

Or are you just saying you want more Christians in the county.

The Constitution doesn’t require any link with the Bible.

You completely, and utterly, didn't understand a single word I said.

You're not saying anything profound. It's the idea that as people lose their real religions, they make up for it with political/ideological BS (e.g., woke religion).

But the fact of the matter is that adherence to Christianity (religion in general) is going down. You can start calling yourself Christian Nation until you're blue in the face. The fact of the matter is that religiosity is decreasing.

America is objectively a less Christian nation than it was a few decades ago. Would it be nice if we could share more basic values? Yes. Christianity ain't it - and I'm not saying that's a good thing.

[Larry]

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

I completely agree with him.

So did the majority of American up until the screwballs took over the democrats.

The US used to be referred to as a Christian Naton that was open to all religions, or none at all. It was called religious freedom. With the Rise Of Stupidity wave that swept through leftwing ideology and set out to become a religion itself, it's adherents were trained to say "we were never a Christian Nation, even our Founding Fathers were Deists", with the conviction of righteous ignorance, actually believing that makes the claim "Christian Nation" go away.

Sorry, but it does not.

Back when people understood WHY the US was a Christian Nation, (the same way Taiwan is a Buddhist nation, Israel is a Jewish nation, Jordan is a Muslim nation, etc) we had religious freedom. You didn't HAVE to be a Christian, because all religions were accepted, and allowed to freely practice. Just as Israel is a Jewish nation, but all religions are accepted and allowed to freely practice. In Taiwan, same thing. In contrast, if you are caught practicing a religion other than Islam in most Muslim countries, you are put to death.

So yes, America needs to get back to calling itself a Christian Nation. Because if we don't, we will go from a nation with a religious identity that accepts all religions and allows them to practice freely with no particular religion forced on them, to a forced religion. I know that will be very difficult for democrats and the Left in general to understand, but that's because you've been so thoroughly brainwashed in how to think - by one of the religions that is actively trying it's best to become the government sanctioned religion itself.

If we’re not setting up a theocracy, then what’s a Christian Nation? Do the laws need to pass some sort of Christian test?

Or are you just saying you want more Christians in the county.

The Constitution doesn’t require any link with the Bible.

You completely, and utterly, didn't understand a single word I said.

You're not saying anything profound. It's the idea that as people lose their real religions, they make up for it with political/ideological BS (e.g., woke religion).

But the fact of the matter is that adherence to Christianity (religion in general) is going down. You can start calling yourself Christian Nation until you're blue in the face. The fact of the matter is that religiosity is decreasing.

America is objectively a less Christian nation than it was a few decades ago. Would it be nice if we could share more basic values? Yes. Christianity ain't it - and I'm not saying that's a good thing.

I think jolly may have pegged this best. You utterly failed to understand me because you're dumber than a box of hair.

[xenon]

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

I completely agree with him.

So did the majority of American up until the screwballs took over the democrats.

The US used to be referred to as a Christian Naton that was open to all religions, or none at all. It was called religious freedom. With the Rise Of Stupidity wave that swept through leftwing ideology and set out to become a religion itself, it's adherents were trained to say "we were never a Christian Nation, even our Founding Fathers were Deists", with the conviction of righteous ignorance, actually believing that makes the claim "Christian Nation" go away.

Sorry, but it does not.

Back when people understood WHY the US was a Christian Nation, (the same way Taiwan is a Buddhist nation, Israel is a Jewish nation, Jordan is a Muslim nation, etc) we had religious freedom. You didn't HAVE to be a Christian, because all religions were accepted, and allowed to freely practice. Just as Israel is a Jewish nation, but all religions are accepted and allowed to freely practice. In Taiwan, same thing. In contrast, if you are caught practicing a religion other than Islam in most Muslim countries, you are put to death.

So yes, America needs to get back to calling itself a Christian Nation. Because if we don't, we will go from a nation with a religious identity that accepts all religions and allows them to practice freely with no particular religion forced on them, to a forced religion. I know that will be very difficult for democrats and the Left in general to understand, but that's because you've been so thoroughly brainwashed in how to think - by one of the religions that is actively trying it's best to become the government sanctioned religion itself.

If we’re not setting up a theocracy, then what’s a Christian Nation? Do the laws need to pass some sort of Christian test?

Or are you just saying you want more Christians in the county.

The Constitution doesn’t require any link with the Bible.

You completely, and utterly, didn't understand a single word I said.

You're not saying anything profound. It's the idea that as people lose their real religions, they make up for it with political/ideological BS (e.g., woke religion).

But the fact of the matter is that adherence to Christianity (religion in general) is going down. You can start calling yourself Christian Nation until you're blue in the face. The fact of the matter is that religiosity is decreasing.

America is objectively a less Christian nation than it was a few decades ago. Would it be nice if we could share more basic values? Yes. Christianity ain't it - and I'm not saying that's a good thing.

I think jolly may have pegged this best. You utterly failed to understand me because you're dumber than a box of hair.

Fine, I'm dumb. Explain it, then. What do you want? People who are Christians to call this a Christian Nation? They already do.

Do you want San Franciscans to start calling the U.S. a Christian Nation too?

[Larry]

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@xenon said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

@larry said in Flynn: Overthrow the government:

I completely agree with him.

So did the majority of American up until the screwballs took over the democrats.

The US used to be referred to as a Christian Naton that was open to all religions, or none at all. It was called religious freedom. With the Rise Of Stupidity wave that swept through leftwing ideology and set out to become a religion itself, it's adherents were trained to say "we were never a Christian Nation, even our Founding Fathers were Deists", with the conviction of righteous ignorance, actually believing that makes the claim "Christian Nation" go away.

Sorry, but it does not.

Back when people understood WHY the US was a Christian Nation, (the same way Taiwan is a Buddhist nation, Israel is a Jewish nation, Jordan is a Muslim nation, etc) we had religious freedom. You didn't HAVE to be a Christian, because all religions were accepted, and allowed to freely practice. Just as Israel is a Jewish nation, but all religions are accepted and allowed to freely practice. In Taiwan, same thing. In contrast, if you are caught practicing a religion other than Islam in most Muslim countries, you are put to death.

So yes, America needs to get back to calling itself a Christian Nation. Because if we don't, we will go from a nation with a religious identity that accepts all religions and allows them to practice freely with no particular religion forced on them, to a forced religion. I know that will be very difficult for democrats and the Left in general to understand, but that's because you've been so thoroughly brainwashed in how to think - by one of the religions that is actively trying it's best to become the government sanctioned religion itself.

If we’re not setting up a theocracy, then what’s a Christian Nation? Do the laws need to pass some sort of Christian test?

Or are you just saying you want more Christians in the county.

The Constitution doesn’t require any link with the Bible.

You completely, and utterly, didn't understand a single word I said.

You're not saying anything profound. It's the idea that as people lose their real religions, they make up for it with political/ideological BS (e.g., woke religion).

But the fact of the matter is that adherence to Christianity (religion in general) is going down. You can start calling yourself Christian Nation until you're blue in the face. The fact of the matter is that religiosity is decreasing.

America is objectively a less Christian nation than it was a few decades ago. Would it be nice if we could share more basic values? Yes. Christianity ain't it - and I'm not saying that's a good thing.

I think jolly may have pegged this best. You utterly failed to understand me because you're dumber than a box of hair.

Fine, I'm dumb. Explain it, then. What do you want? People who are Christians to call this a Christian Nation? They already do.

Do you want San Franciscans to start calling the U.S. a Christian Nation too?

Good god...., how do you discuss the color blue with a blind man.....

Look kid.. you don't understand it. Nothing I say will help you understand it, because it's not something you're capable of understanding. So just shut the hell up.

[George K]

https://jonathanturley.org/2021/11/14/michael-flynn-we-must-have-one-religion/

Flynn was pummeled by prosecutors to the point of bankruptcy and subjected to serious errors in prosecutorial and judicial misconduct for years. Despite my criticism of his prosecution, however, some of us noticed a rise of unhinged and undemocratic rhetoric from the former national security adviser. This includes comments that appeared to call for a military coup.

The comment about religion is equally reckless and hopefully Flynn will publicly correct it.

In any correction or clarification, Flynn would be wise to incorporate the words of Thomas Jefferson (who famously translated his personal copy of the Koran):

“The subject of religion, a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved, I have considered it as a matter between every man and his maker, in which no other, and far less the public had a right to inter-meddle.”

I do not doubt that Flynn recognizes the contribution of such heroes of other faiths or atheists to our country. Moreover, in fairness, Flynn did not say that we should impose one religion. He clearly believes that Christianity is the one true faith and may have just been saying that everyone should embrace a faith in Jesus. However, that does not change the reckless and insulting meaning suggested by his words.

This country was based on the rejection of the “one religion” model. Indeed many of the colonists fled nations with such religious intolerance. Even with our guarantees of separation of church and state, such rhetoric can easily lead to sectarian divisions and even violence. That point was made by the great Edmund Burke who declared “Religious persecution may shield itself under the guise of a mistaken and overzealous piety.”

This is why we took a different path and embraced the concept of E pluribus unum — “Out of many, one.”

[Jolly]

This country was based on the rejection of the “one religion” model. Indeed many of the colonists fled nations with such religious intolerance. Even with our guarantees of separation of church and state, such rhetoric can easily lead to sectarian divisions and even violence. That point was made by the great Edmund Burke who declared “Religious persecution may shield itself under the guise of a mistaken and overzealous piety.”

Uh, that's not quite true.