So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.
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What a weird series of events.
The initial story from the inspector, both real estate agents, and the buyer were that they found the basement like that: they walked in, and there was the puddle on the ground. Crack was already there and everything. Which my wife and I both knew was horseshit.
They had until last night at midnight to submit the inspection. Last night at about 8, our real estate agent was informed that, well, they don't know anything about anything, but maybe perhaps, what might have sort of happened was that when the inspector tried to probe the line, he didn't know how to undo the end cap, and you know, they're just guessing here but maybe he cracked the pipe while doing so.
So, just to keep everything kosher, the buyers are willing to pay for the fix.
I very much wonder what all these conversations really sounded like.
@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
willing to pay for the fix
Tell them to keep the money and give an apology.
Well, maybe not all the money.
Actually, OK, let them pay.
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What a weird series of events.
The initial story from the inspector, both real estate agents, and the buyer were that they found the basement like that: they walked in, and there was the puddle on the ground. Crack was already there and everything. Which my wife and I both knew was horseshit.
They had until last night at midnight to submit the inspection. Last night at about 8, our real estate agent was informed that, well, they don't know anything about anything, but maybe perhaps, what might have sort of happened was that when the inspector tried to probe the line, he didn't know how to undo the end cap, and you know, they're just guessing here but maybe he cracked the pipe while doing so.
So, just to keep everything kosher, the buyers are willing to pay for the fix.
I very much wonder what all these conversations really sounded like.
@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
What a weird series of events.
The initial story from the inspector, both real estate agents, and the buyer were that they found the basement like that: they walked in, and there was the puddle on the ground. Crack was already there and everything. Which my wife and I both knew was horseshit.
They had until last night at midnight to submit the inspection. Last night at about 8, our real estate agent was informed that, well, they don't know anything about anything, but maybe perhaps, what might have sort of happened was that when the inspector tried to probe the line, he didn't know how to undo the end cap, and you know, they're just guessing here but maybe he cracked the pipe while doing so.
So, just to keep everything kosher, the buyers are willing to pay for the fix.
I very much wonder what all these conversations really sounded like.
Does this also mean they will actually buy the house? Is the sale going through?
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@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
What a weird series of events.
The initial story from the inspector, both real estate agents, and the buyer were that they found the basement like that: they walked in, and there was the puddle on the ground. Crack was already there and everything. Which my wife and I both knew was horseshit.
They had until last night at midnight to submit the inspection. Last night at about 8, our real estate agent was informed that, well, they don't know anything about anything, but maybe perhaps, what might have sort of happened was that when the inspector tried to probe the line, he didn't know how to undo the end cap, and you know, they're just guessing here but maybe he cracked the pipe while doing so.
So, just to keep everything kosher, the buyers are willing to pay for the fix.
I very much wonder what all these conversations really sounded like.
Does this also mean they will actually buy the house? Is the sale going through?
@brenda said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
Does this also mean they will actually buy the house? Is the sale going through?
Well, it isn't sunk yet, I guess I'll say that. We've also got a very loose but still potential runner-up. Apparently they haven't found anything else they liked yet.
So, y'know, definitely maybe.
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Take the money and run. That's a given, correct? Any offer they give will factor that cost into it.
@mik said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
Take the money and run. That's a given, correct? Any offer they give will factor that cost into it.
Correctamundo. We have some flexibility regarding the offer, so we're playing it cool and seeing what they counter with.
I can't believe they're going through with the fix.
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@mik said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
Take the money and run. That's a given, correct? Any offer they give will factor that cost into it.
Correctamundo. We have some flexibility regarding the offer, so we're playing it cool and seeing what they counter with.
I can't believe they're going through with the fix.
@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
I can't believe they're going through with the fix.
I may have missed it (too lazy to scroll up), but what's the expected cost of the fix?
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@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
I can't believe they're going through with the fix.
I may have missed it (too lazy to scroll up), but what's the expected cost of the fix?
@george-k said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
I can't believe they're going through with the fix.
I may have missed it (too lazy to scroll up), but what's the expected cost of the fix?
The plumber's bill, plus an undetermined additional fee to Aqua for dealing with their initial behavior.
Let us help you determine that, Aqua.
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@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
I can't believe they're going through with the fix.
I may have missed it (too lazy to scroll up), but what's the expected cost of the fix?
@george-k said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
I can't believe they're going through with the fix.
I may have missed it (too lazy to scroll up), but what's the expected cost of the fix?
$2k. Verified this independently with a contractor friend of mine, and he was gonna guess that exact same.
Our plumber found wrench marks along the pipe. And there's a freaking exit pipe with a working flap the inspector could've used for the scope, but he wasn't a plumber so he didn't know this and fucked up royally. Our plumber is willing to go on record about all this, so even if the deal falls through, we ain't paying for this shit ultimately.
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If I were a seller, and the deal was at risk of falling through for $2K or repairs, I'd eat it, take the money and run.
If I were a buyer, and really liked the house, I wouldn't let $2K additional cost make me walk away.
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If I were a seller, and the deal was at risk of falling through for $2K or repairs, I'd eat it, take the money and run.
If I were a buyer, and really liked the house, I wouldn't let $2K additional cost make me walk away.
@george-k said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
If I were a seller, and the deal was at risk of falling through for $2K or repairs, I'd eat it, take the money and run.
If I were a buyer, and really liked the house, I wouldn't let $2K additional cost make me walk away.
Yeah, that's basically the situation. But I'm completely surprised they're sticking with it. Buyer was pissed about something when he drove off.
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@george-k said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
If I were a seller, and the deal was at risk of falling through for $2K or repairs, I'd eat it, take the money and run.
If I were a buyer, and really liked the house, I wouldn't let $2K additional cost make me walk away.
Yeah, that's basically the situation. But I'm completely surprised they're sticking with it. Buyer was pissed about something when he drove off.
He was probably pissed at the inspector for damaging the pipe then trying to cover it up.
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He was probably pissed at the inspector for damaging the pipe then trying to cover it up.
@renauda said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
He was probably pissed at the inspector for damaging the pipe then trying to cover it up.
Agreed, but only makes sense now in retrospect.
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What a weird series of events.
The initial story from the inspector, both real estate agents, and the buyer were that they found the basement like that: they walked in, and there was the puddle on the ground. Crack was already there and everything. Which my wife and I both knew was horseshit.
They had until last night at midnight to submit the inspection. Last night at about 8, our real estate agent was informed that, well, they don't know anything about anything, but maybe perhaps, what might have sort of happened was that when the inspector tried to probe the line, he didn't know how to undo the end cap, and you know, they're just guessing here but maybe he cracked the pipe while doing so.
So, just to keep everything kosher, the buyers are willing to pay for the fix.
I very much wonder what all these conversations really sounded like.
@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
The initial story from the inspector, both real estate agents, and the buyer were
Was one of the two real estate agents the one you hired?
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@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
The initial story from the inspector, both real estate agents, and the buyer were
Was one of the two real estate agents the one you hired?
@taiwan_girl said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
The initial story from the inspector, both real estate agents, and the buyer were
Was one of the two real estate agents the one you hired?
Nope. It's generally uncool for you or your agent to be around during the inspections if you're the seller. Which, fuck that, I'm not falling for that shit again.
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Update:
Had the appraisal guy here, which is the last big hurdle. The potential buyer was with him, so we chatted. Seems like a swell guy. He is PISSED at the inspector. Apparently, all that "it was like that when I got here" horseshit was the inspector's idea, and only after the buyer raised holy hell about it did the inspector "agree" to pay for the fix.Apparently on their end, the inspector was pulling some "not my problem" B.S., but the buyer didn't want this incident to complicate the deal, and he didn't want to be on the hook for the fix.
How it washed out was that in the updated terms, the inspector was explicitly called out as the person who'd be paying for the fixes.
Plumber came in, tore out a chunk of our wall, replaced an assload of pipe, put in new masonry and that was that. All fixed now.
$2,100 or so, all told. Plumber wasn't excited about the prospect of chasing down the inspector for the payment—he thought he was going to get paid the same day the job was completed. We told him, look, nobody likes this fuckface, so if you don't get paid by him by tomorrow please let us know, I have no problem playing collections agent. It'd be fun, even. Plumber seemed more relieved when he left.
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Update:
Had the appraisal guy here, which is the last big hurdle. The potential buyer was with him, so we chatted. Seems like a swell guy. He is PISSED at the inspector. Apparently, all that "it was like that when I got here" horseshit was the inspector's idea, and only after the buyer raised holy hell about it did the inspector "agree" to pay for the fix.Apparently on their end, the inspector was pulling some "not my problem" B.S., but the buyer didn't want this incident to complicate the deal, and he didn't want to be on the hook for the fix.
How it washed out was that in the updated terms, the inspector was explicitly called out as the person who'd be paying for the fixes.
Plumber came in, tore out a chunk of our wall, replaced an assload of pipe, put in new masonry and that was that. All fixed now.
$2,100 or so, all told. Plumber wasn't excited about the prospect of chasing down the inspector for the payment—he thought he was going to get paid the same day the job was completed. We told him, look, nobody likes this fuckface, so if you don't get paid by him by tomorrow please let us know, I have no problem playing collections agent. It'd be fun, even. Plumber seemed more relieved when he left.
@aqua-letifer
Good! Glad to hear the buyer is being reasonable and smart about this.This could actually come out fine for you. I think it's great you had an opportunity to hear the buyer's side, too, and I'm sure he was glad to hear yours.
Good luck!
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Makes one wonder how ethical the inspector is in the rest of his job. Sounds like any of his inspections could be suspect. We know he's willing to lie, we just don't know what his price is.
@brenda said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
Makes one wonder how ethical the inspector is in the rest of his job. Sounds like any of his inspections could be suspect. We know he's willing to lie, we just don't know what his price is.
On the Md inspection website, they straightup say it's their job to stress test things, and if something breaks in the process so be it; whatever it is, it's something the sellers should have taken care of in the first place.
That's a lot of trust to be placed in somebody, which is a problem because in addition to the above, a lot of these inspectors aren't what people think. Many of them have never, ever been on a construction site in their lives. They aren't necessarily electricians, plumbers, or carpenters, and they sure as hell aren't all three. Yet they're completely at liberty to screw around with these components, and judge the work of tradesmen far more knowledgable than themselves.
I'm never, ever going to let them screw around with my home without me being there ever again.
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@brenda said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
Makes one wonder how ethical the inspector is in the rest of his job. Sounds like any of his inspections could be suspect. We know he's willing to lie, we just don't know what his price is.
On the Md inspection website, they straightup say it's their job to stress test things, and if something breaks in the process so be it; whatever it is, it's something the sellers should have taken care of in the first place.
That's a lot of trust to be placed in somebody, which is a problem because in addition to the above, a lot of these inspectors aren't what people think. Many of them have never, ever been on a construction site in their lives. They aren't necessarily electricians, plumbers, or carpenters, and they sure as hell aren't all three. Yet they're completely at liberty to screw around with these components, and judge the work of tradesmen far more knowledgable than themselves.
I'm never, ever going to let them screw around with my home without me being there ever again.
@aqua-letifer said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
@brenda said in So, Our House Inspection Flooded Our Basement.:
Makes one wonder how ethical the inspector is in the rest of his job. Sounds like any of his inspections could be suspect. We know he's willing to lie, we just don't know what his price is.
On the Md inspection website, they straightup say it's their job to stress test things, and if something breaks in the process so be it; whatever it is, it's something the sellers should have taken care of in the first place.
That's a lot of trust to be placed in somebody, which is a problem because in addition to the above, a lot of these inspectors aren't what people think. Many of them have never, ever been on a construction site in their lives. They aren't necessarily electricians, plumbers, or carpenters, and they sure as hell aren't all three. Yet they're completely at liberty to screw around with these components, and judge the work of tradesmen far more knowledgable than themselves.
I'm never, ever going to let them screw around with my home without me being there ever again.
I think they make around 200-300 bucks for an inspection. I could be wrong, because I would never allow one of them to set foot on a property. I think you can become a "home inspector" by simply paying a fee.. again, I'm not sure, since I never allowed one to set foot on any of my properties. But then... I never allowed a real estate agent to set foot on a property, either. At a few hundred bucks pay, you'll find it difficult to get a "home inspector" to pony up 2 granf...
