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The COVID pill

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #9

    Pfizer's Pill:

    Pfizer said Friday that its easy-to-administer Covid-19 pill, used in combination with a widely used HIV drug, cut the risk of hospitalization or death by 89% in high-risk adults who’ve been exposed to the virus.

    It’s now the second antiviral pill behind Merck’s to demonstrate strong effectiveness for treating Covid at the first sign of illness. If cleared by regulators, it would likely be a game changer in the ongoing global pandemic fight. Pfizer said it plans to submit its data to the Food and Drug Administration “as soon as possible.”

    Pfizer’s pill, scientifically known as PF-07321332, is part of a class of medicines called protease inhibitors and works by inhibiting an enzyme the virus needs to replicate in human cells. Protease inhibitors are used to treat other viral pathogens such as HIV and hepatitis C.

    The HIV drug helps slow the metabolism, or breakdown, of Pfizer’s pill in order for it to remain active in the body for longer periods of time at higher concentrations, the company said.

    The company said its data on the drug is based on a mid-to-late stage study of 1,219 adults who had at least one underlying medical condition and a laboratory-confirmed infection within a five-day period. Participants were also given a low dose of ritonavir, a medication commonly used in combination treatments for HIV.

    Pfizer said there were six hospitalizations and zero deaths out of the 607 trial participants who received the pill in combination with the HIV drug within five days of symptom onset. That compares with 41 hospitalizations and 10 deaths out of the 612 people who received a placebo.

    “These data suggest that our oral antiviral candidate, if approved by regulatory authorities, has the potential to save patients’ lives, reduce the severity of COVID-19 infections, and eliminate up to nine out of ten hospitalizations,” Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said in a statement.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

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      xenon
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      #10

      Cuts risk of hospitalization and death by 90%!

      That sounds huge.

      Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
      • X xenon

        Cuts risk of hospitalization and death by 90%!

        That sounds huge.

        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by
        #11

        @xenon said in The COVID pill:

        Cuts risk of hospitalization and death by 90%!

        That sounds huge.

        Fuck that, how do we politicize this?

        Please love yourself.

        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          #12

          Mr. Trump endorses this pill.

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          • MikM Mik

            I presided over an alumni event Saturday night, our annual all-class reunion fundraiser. Got to see some folks I haven't for years. I was surprised that they were talking about their stashes of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and where they were able to get it.

            taiwan_girlT Offline
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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
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            @mik said in The COVID pill:

            they were talking about their stashes of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and where they were able to get it.

            ( i know this is kind of a stereo type, so I apologize in advance)

            But, it seems that people who do not trust the COVID vaccines because they are "unproven" seem willing to embrace equally unproven treatments like ivermectin and hydroxycholoroquine.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @xenon said in The COVID pill:

              Cuts risk of hospitalization and death by 90%!

              That sounds huge.

              Fuck that, how do we politicize this?

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              @aqua-letifer said in The COVID pill:

              @xenon said in The COVID pill:

              Cuts risk of hospitalization and death by 90%!

              That sounds huge.

              Fuck that, how do we politicize this?

              Well, since it seems that we now have a treatment as effective as the vaccine, why are we pushing vaccine mandates, huh? That’s right… Because it ain’t about stopping COVID…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @aqua-letifer said in The COVID pill:

                @xenon said in The COVID pill:

                Cuts risk of hospitalization and death by 90%!

                That sounds huge.

                Fuck that, how do we politicize this?

                Well, since it seems that we now have a treatment as effective as the vaccine, why are we pushing vaccine mandates, huh? That’s right… Because it ain’t about stopping COVID…

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #15

                @lufins-dad said in The COVID pill:

                @aqua-letifer said in The COVID pill:

                @xenon said in The COVID pill:

                Cuts risk of hospitalization and death by 90%!

                That sounds huge.

                Fuck that, how do we politicize this?

                Well, since it seems that we now have a treatment as effective as the vaccine, why are we pushing vaccine mandates, huh? That’s right… Because it ain’t about stopping COVID…

                Hasn't been for awhile...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @lufins-dad said in The COVID pill:

                  @aqua-letifer said in The COVID pill:

                  @xenon said in The COVID pill:

                  Cuts risk of hospitalization and death by 90%!

                  That sounds huge.

                  Fuck that, how do we politicize this?

                  Well, since it seems that we now have a treatment as effective as the vaccine, why are we pushing vaccine mandates, huh? That’s right… Because it ain’t about stopping COVID…

                  Hasn't been for awhile...

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  @jolly said in The COVID pill:

                  @lufins-dad said in The COVID pill:

                  @aqua-letifer said in The COVID pill:

                  @xenon said in The COVID pill:

                  Cuts risk of hospitalization and death by 90%!

                  That sounds huge.

                  Fuck that, how do we politicize this?

                  Well, since it seems that we now have a treatment as effective as the vaccine, why are we pushing vaccine mandates, huh? That’s right… Because it ain’t about stopping COVID…

                  Hasn't been for awhile...

                  I did it! What do I win!

                  The Brad

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                  • bachophileB Offline
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                    bachophile
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                    #17

                    yea absolutely its all about purposely infringing freedoms...
                    makes sense.

                    BTW i would take a RNA vaccine anyday over an experimental antiviral drug called PF-07321332.

                    at least I know the working part of vaccine is gone within 5 days and all the effect is done by the innate immune system

                    antivirals, as a class of drugs, are really weird. avoid if possible. and to say better to stop pushing vaccines when we have a drug to treat...is akin to saying, dont worry about getting a mammogram, we have herceptin.
                    crazy idea

                    LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                    • bachophileB bachophile

                      yea absolutely its all about purposely infringing freedoms...
                      makes sense.

                      BTW i would take a RNA vaccine anyday over an experimental antiviral drug called PF-07321332.

                      at least I know the working part of vaccine is gone within 5 days and all the effect is done by the innate immune system

                      antivirals, as a class of drugs, are really weird. avoid if possible. and to say better to stop pushing vaccines when we have a drug to treat...is akin to saying, dont worry about getting a mammogram, we have herceptin.
                      crazy idea

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      @bachophile said in The COVID pill:

                      yea absolutely its all about purposely infringing freedoms...
                      makes sense.

                      BTW i would take a RNA vaccine anyday over an experimental antiviral drug called PF-07321332.

                      at least I know the working part of vaccine is gone within 5 days and all the effect is done by the innate immune system

                      antivirals, as a class of drugs, are really weird. avoid if possible. and to say better to stop pushing vaccines when we have a drug to treat...is akin to saying, dont worry about getting a mammogram, we have herceptin.
                      crazy idea

                      I have not been able to understand for the life of me why people that don’t want to take the vaccines are so excited Omer monoclonal antibodies?

                      The Brad

                      bachophileB 1 Reply Last reply
                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @bachophile said in The COVID pill:

                        yea absolutely its all about purposely infringing freedoms...
                        makes sense.

                        BTW i would take a RNA vaccine anyday over an experimental antiviral drug called PF-07321332.

                        at least I know the working part of vaccine is gone within 5 days and all the effect is done by the innate immune system

                        antivirals, as a class of drugs, are really weird. avoid if possible. and to say better to stop pushing vaccines when we have a drug to treat...is akin to saying, dont worry about getting a mammogram, we have herceptin.
                        crazy idea

                        I have not been able to understand for the life of me why people that don’t want to take the vaccines are so excited Omer monoclonal antibodies?

                        bachophileB Offline
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                        bachophile
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #19

                        @lufins-dad me neither

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