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Decline in effectiveness for Moderna, Pfizer, Janssen vaccines

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  • George KG Offline
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    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-11-decline-effectiveness-moderna-pfizer-janssen.html

    Researchers found that protection against any COVID-19 infection declined for all vaccine types, with overall vaccine protection declining from 87.9% in February to 48.1% by October 2021.

    The decline was greatest for the Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) vaccine, with protection against infection declining from 86.4% in March to 13.1% in September
    Declines for PfizerBioNTech were from 86.9% to 43.3%
    Declines for Moderna were 89.2% to 58%.

    For those under 65 years old, vaccines overall were 81.7% effective against death.

    Protection against death was greatest for the Pfizer vaccine, at 84.3%.
    Moderna was the next most effective, at 81.5%.
    Janssen was 73% effective.
    For those 65 and over, overall vaccine effectiveness against death was 71.6%.

    Moderna was 75.5% effective.
    Pfizer was 70.1% effective.
    Janssen was 52.2% effective.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • markM Offline
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      mark
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      Do they have any data on the booster shots?

      I might get mine this week.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        Still not seeing natural immunity stuff...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • markM mark

          Do they have any data on the booster shots?

          I might get mine this week.

          bachophileB Offline
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          bachophile
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          @mark https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            Gonna take a heckuva database to take care of all those vaccine passports we're going to have...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Gonna take a heckuva database to take care of all those vaccine passports we're going to have...

              bachophileB Offline
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              bachophile
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              @jolly EU population is greater than the US but that there is an EU vaccine passport.

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                @jolly EU population is greater than the US but that there is an EU vaccine passport.

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                Jolly
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                @bachophile said in Decline in effectiveness for Moderna, Pfizer, Janssen vaccines:

                @jolly EU population is greater than the US but that there is an EU vaccine passport.

                I suspect the U.S. is a mite more fractious bunch...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @bachophile said in Decline in effectiveness for Moderna, Pfizer, Janssen vaccines:

                  @jolly EU population is greater than the US but that there is an EU vaccine passport.

                  I suspect the U.S. is a mite more fractious bunch...

                  bachophileB Offline
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                  @jolly considering the EU is 27 countries yet the US is more fractious is not a particularly good omen

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                  • bachophileB bachophile

                    @jolly considering the EU is 27 countries yet the US is more fractious is not a particularly good omen

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                    @bachophile said in Decline in effectiveness for Moderna, Pfizer, Janssen vaccines:

                    @jolly considering the EU is 27 countries yet the US is more fractious is not a particularly good omen

                    We have the people who left Europe over the last 400 years.

                    In search of freedom from vaccines

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                    • bachophileB bachophile

                      @mark https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255

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                      @bachophile said in Decline in effectiveness for Moderna, Pfizer, Janssen vaccines:

                      @mark https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255

                      Thank you.

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                      • markM Offline
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                        mark
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                        I guess I am not eligible for a booster.

                        2021-11-08 11_44_02-COVID-19 Vaccine_ FAQs & Distribution Information _ Walgreens.png

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          Nice knowing you...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • markM Offline
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                            Found something that I can use to become eligible. I am a former smoker.

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                              mark
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                              We got our Moderna booster shots today...

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Hope they work well...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  The FDA has approved boosters for everyone 18 or older, with or without heightened risk profile.

                                  https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-expands-eligibility-covid-19-vaccine-boosters

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                                    WHO disagrees.

                                    The Brad

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