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One Month Ago Today

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  • MikM Offline
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    Aqua, you really have to realize what the stakes were and are here. A public panic would have been the very worst thing imaginable, and it was his job to prevent that. He did. What he might have said better was everyone who needs a test will get it, but he didn't. We also did not have a panic.

    Can you imagine Roosevelt saying that the Germans were also working on an atomic bomb and if they get it first we're screwed? We had no idea how WWII would work out but we talked victory from day one. Had Hitler not attacked Russia it might have been very different.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Aqua, you really have to realize what the stakes were and are here. A public panic would have been the very worst thing imaginable, and it was his job to prevent that. He did. What he might have said better was everyone who needs a test will get it, but he didn't. We also did not have a panic.

      Can you imagine Roosevelt saying that the Germans were also working on an atomic bomb and if they get it first we're screwed? We had no idea how WWII would work out but we talked victory from day one. Had Hitler not attacked Russia it might have been very different.

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      @Mik Yes but what Roosevelt didn't do was say, "the Germans are absolutely not working on an atomic bomb."

      I've come around to some of his rhetoric. I think a lot of times it's his extremely clumsy way of doing exactly what you're describing. But c'mon man, don't lie about shit. There's no need for that and it absolutely does not instill trust.

      Please love yourself.

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        I agree. One of the things I have learned in my career is that people will still respect me even if I dont have the answer.

        It is okay to say - "I dont have an answer for you right now, but I will find out and have someone get back to you."

        That is much better than trying to make up something on the spot which comes back to make you look bad.

        Like Aqua said, it would have been so much better to say something like - "we are increasing the testing. Each day, we will have the capability to do more testing. Is it where I want it to be right now? No. But we have a lot of great people working on this moving forward." No commitments, no exact promises, BUT no lies either. So much better.

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          #13

          For the record, my bad on getting on Jolly's case. I'm just pissed that we're not getting the messaging I personally would like to see from the president. Which in the scheme of things doesn't amount to anything.

          Please love yourself.

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          • CopperC Offline
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            We have no need for a scary president.

            That job is more than covered.

            He is, and has been, advocating the correct response to the flu.

            A little sunshine is part of his job.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              I agree. One of the things I have learned in my career is that people will still respect me even if I dont have the answer.

              It is okay to say - "I dont have an answer for you right now, but I will find out and have someone get back to you."

              That is much better than trying to make up something on the spot which comes back to make you look bad.

              Like Aqua said, it would have been so much better to say something like - "we are increasing the testing. Each day, we will have the capability to do more testing. Is it where I want it to be right now? No. But we have a lot of great people working on this moving forward." No commitments, no exact promises, BUT no lies either. So much better.

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              @taiwan_girl said in One Month Ago Today:

              It is okay to say - "I dont have an answer for you right now, but I will find out and have someone get back to you."

              Yes, this, but our current president is incapable of making such a statement, regarding anything.

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              • CopperC Copper

                We have no need for a scary president.

                That job is more than covered.

                He is, and has been, advocating the correct response to the flu.

                A little sunshine is part of his job.

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                @Copper said in One Month Ago Today:

                He is, and has been, advocating the correct response to the flu.

                That's the problem in a nutshell.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • markM mark

                  @taiwan_girl said in One Month Ago Today:

                  It is okay to say - "I dont have an answer for you right now, but I will find out and have someone get back to you."

                  Yes, this, but our current president is incapable of making such a statement, regarding anything.

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                  @mark said in One Month Ago Today:

                  @taiwan_girl said in One Month Ago Today:

                  It is okay to say - "I dont have an answer for you right now, but I will find out and have someone get back to you."

                  Yes, this, but our current president is incapable of making such a statement, regarding anything.

                  Someone else here made a similar statement last week

                  You really have to watch the press conferences

                  He makes such a statement several times every day

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                  • George KG George K

                    The countries with the highest test rates, Spain and Italy, have the highest death rates as well. However, countries with lower test rates, such as Japan have lower death rates.

                    South Korea has performed 30X the tests that Japan has, and has a six-fold higher death rate.

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                    @George-K said in One Month Ago Today:

                    The countries with the highest test rates, Spain and Italy, have the highest death rates as well. However, countries with lower test rates, such as Japan have lower death rates.

                    South Korea has performed 30X the tests that Japan has, and has a six-fold higher death rate.

                    So Trump is actually saving lives by not testing us! Is there anything he can't do?

                    I was only joking

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      We have no need for a scary president.

                      That job is more than covered.

                      He is, and has been, advocating the correct response to the flu.

                      A little sunshine is part of his job.

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                      @Copper said in One Month Ago Today:

                      A little sunshine is part of his job.

                      and I think we all know where he thinks it shines out of.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        For the record, my bad on getting on Jolly's case. I'm just pissed that we're not getting the messaging I personally would like to see from the president. Which in the scheme of things doesn't amount to anything.

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                        Jolly
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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in One Month Ago Today:

                        For the record, my bad on getting on Jolly's case. I'm just pissed that we're not getting the messaging I personally would like to see from the president. Which in the scheme of things doesn't amount to anything.

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                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          😁

                          Eat me.

                          Please love yourself.

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