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A Constitutional Right?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Dersh on vaccinations and masks...

    https://www.wnd.com/2020/05/alan-dershowitz-state-right-plunge-needle-arm/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      @dersh said

      Dershowitz added that there are "cases after cases after cases" in which courts have ruled in favor of "reasonable actions to prevent the spread of communicable diseases."

      I expect there are reasonable actions other than vaccination.

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        It seems like a harsh but inevitable truth that the state has the right to do that sort of thing. That said, what are the chances the state would ever enforce this?

        Education is extremely important.

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          Yeah, I see his argument, but I think someone's body is and should remain inviolate. Where else have we compelled all citizens to be medically treated?

          I really don't think this will ever come to that.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            I don’t even think there’s a case for it unless there are broad categories of people who can’t be vaccinated.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              I don’t even think there’s a case for it unless there are broad categories of people who can’t be vaccinated.

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              @jon-nyc said in A Constitutional Right?:

              I don’t even think there’s a case for it unless there are broad categories of people who can’t be vaccinated.

              What about broad categories of people who refuse to be vaccinated?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • MikM Offline
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                #7

                Just as today they take their own risk, assuming the vaccine is effective. I'll be first in line, as I will probably consider the vaccine a much lower risk than the virus.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  @jon-nyc said in A Constitutional Right?:

                  I don’t even think there’s a case for it unless there are broad categories of people who can’t be vaccinated.

                  What about broad categories of people who refuse to be vaccinated?

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                  @Jolly said in A Constitutional Right?:

                  @jon-nyc said in A Constitutional Right?:

                  I don’t even think there’s a case for it unless there are broad categories of people who can’t be vaccinated.

                  What about broad categories of people who refuse to be vaccinated?

                  I think if they’re only endangering themselves and other refuseniks that should be fine. If they are endangering large groups of people who can’t get vaccinated that’s another thing.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    If the vaccine is only partially effective, then refusing it is liable to increase the risk for everybody.

                    I was only joking

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                      That’s true.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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