"Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate"
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Until we make it stop, it's only going to get worse.
Massive, and I mean massive regulation of insurance companies which can start by outlawing "networks" (or just do away with insurance all together) and health care facilities is long overdue in this country.
I agree with Jolly, outlawing for profit health care would be a good start.
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Until we make it stop, it's only going to get worse.
Massive, and I mean massive regulation of insurance companies which can start by outlawing "networks" (or just do away with insurance all together) and health care facilities is long overdue in this country.
I agree with Jolly, outlawing for profit health care would be a good start.
@mark said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
I agree with Jolly, outlawing for profit health care would be a good start.
Most of these hospitals doing this are non-profits.
Only non-witches get due process.
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It's also creating healthcare deserts, where you're lucky to have a nurse practitioner.
The docs have left, unable to make ends meet and being sucked up into the corporate hospital world.
I would outlaw for-profit hospitals tomorrow, if I couldn't get it done today.
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George I have never had that experience either at Duke or Columbia, both of which I use regularly. I make the appointment with the person I want.
@jon-nyc said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
George I have never had that experience either at Duke or Columbia, both of which I use regularly. I make the appointment with the person I want.
I understand, but, I think you're missing my point. By accident, I came across an internist at Northwestern. She's young, smart, and knows what she doesn't know.
I had mentioned that I had my colonoscopy, and who had done it (the guy who takes care of Mrs. George's GI issues). She said, "Oh, is he good? I'm glad to know that because when I refer someone for a colonoscopy, I just send them to 'GI'. It's good to know that there's someone good."
The obvious conclusion is that she doesn't know who she's sending her patients to. Of course, if she has a name, she'll refer there, but if she doesn't, you're rolling the dice.
As I said in my original posts, there's lots of good docs and lots of so-so docs. Word-of-mouth is important if you trust your own doc. Otherwise, it's just a corporate referral.
For my eyes, I'm going to see the doc that did Mrs. George's cataracts. The only way to get that appointment is to call and specifically ask for her. Otherwise, you go through the site, and request "ophthalmology." And I'll betcha my internist doesn't know Mrs. George's ophthalmologist.
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This is one of the reasons I pay more for traditional Medicare and supplement than taking an Advantage plan for less, maybe nothing. No network. I can go to any doctor or facility I want (that takes Medicare). Better coverage out of country.
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This is one of the reasons I pay more for traditional Medicare and supplement than taking an Advantage plan for less, maybe nothing. No network. I can go to any doctor or facility I want (that takes Medicare). Better coverage out of country.
@mik said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
This is one of the reasons I pay more for traditional Medicare and supplement than taking an Advantage plan for less, maybe nothing. No network. I can go to any doctor or facility I want (that takes Medicare). Better coverage out of country.
Advantage is very good for people with few or very modest means. It sucks for people who can pay for a Medigap policy.
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@mark said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
I agree with Jolly, outlawing for profit health care would be a good start.
Most of these hospitals doing this are non-profits.
@jon-nyc said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
@mark said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
I agree with Jolly, outlawing for profit health care would be a good start.
Most of these hospitals doing this are non-profits.
I am talking about the entire "health care" system not just hospitals. Specifically, the insurance racket.
Making profits on human illness and injury is just wrong on every level. Making me pay an obscene amount of money per month plus another obscene deductible, and then making me go to a specific group of facilities or I have to pay even more should be illegal. Down with network based health insurance. Health insurance should be just like any other kind of insurance. I should be able to pick and choose who I see and where I go to see them.
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@jon-nyc said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
@mark said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
I agree with Jolly, outlawing for profit health care would be a good start.
Most of these hospitals doing this are non-profits.
I am talking about the entire "health care" system not just hospitals. Specifically, the insurance racket.
Making profits on human illness and injury is just wrong on every level. Making me pay an obscene amount of money per month plus another obscene deductible, and then making me go to a specific group of facilities or I have to pay even more should be illegal. Down with network based health insurance. Health insurance should be just like any other kind of insurance. I should be able to pick and choose who I see and where I go to see them.
@mark said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
@jon-nyc said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
@mark said in "Medicine is quickly becoming overwhelmingly corporate":
I agree with Jolly, outlawing for profit health care would be a good start.
Most of these hospitals doing this are non-profits.
I am talking about the entire "health care" system not just hospitals. Specifically, the insurance racket.
Making profits on human illness and injury is just wrong on every level. Making me pay an obscene amount of money per month plus another obscene deductible, and then making me go to a specific group of facilities or I have to pay even more should be illegal. Down with network based health insurance. Health insurance should be just like any other kind of insurance. I should be able to pick and choose who I see and where I go to see them.
The problem stems from zero controls on cost. Doctors don’t know what specific procedures cost and that’s seen as a virtue. Treatment A may cost 10k and have an efficacy of X, Treatment B may cost 1k and have an efficacy of X-5%. Docs don’t think along those lines.
No one in the system does. It’s gold plated steaks all around if you’re fully insured.
