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    George K
    wrote on 28 Oct 2021, 13:44 last edited by
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    https://katu.com/news/local/portland-offers-bereavement-leave-to-city-employees-who-have-abortion

    A decision by Portland city leaders is drawing attention from across the country.

    Portland is now the first to offer bereavement leave for employees after they have an abortion.

    City Council unanimously approved the changes earlier this month.

    Under the new policy, employees are able to take off three days of work after an abortion or any type of pregnancy loss.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Copper
      wrote on 28 Oct 2021, 14:08 last edited by
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      idiots

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        Jolly
        wrote on 28 Oct 2021, 14:09 last edited by
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        In spades.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 28 Oct 2021, 14:12 last edited by
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          Glad to see them dealing with the pressing problems the city faces.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 28 Oct 2021, 14:25 last edited by
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            Depends on what got pressed, I guess...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 28 Oct 2021, 21:32 last edited by
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              Safe, Legal, and Rare is an admission that there is an ethical problem with abortion. So is bereavement leave. You don’t get bereavement leave for removing an appendix, do you?

              The Brad

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 01:13 last edited by
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                According to the article:

                Under the new policy, employees are able to take off three days of work after an abortion or any type of pregnancy loss.

                Bereavement leave for "any type of pregnancy loss" ... this is a humane, empathetic policy.

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                • A Axtremus
                  29 Oct 2021, 01:13

                  According to the article:

                  Under the new policy, employees are able to take off three days of work after an abortion or any type of pregnancy loss.

                  Bereavement leave for "any type of pregnancy loss" ... this is a humane, empathetic policy.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 02:14 last edited by
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                  @axtremus said in Bereavement Leave:

                  According to the article:

                  Under the new policy, employees are able to take off three days of work after an abortion or any type of pregnancy loss.

                  Bereavement leave for "any type of pregnancy loss" ... this is a humane, empathetic policy.

                  If you believe it’s just a lump of cells then in what way is a “humane and empathetic policy” necessary? Should I get bereavement leave for my tonsillectomy?

                  The Brad

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                    29 Oct 2021, 02:14

                    @axtremus said in Bereavement Leave:

                    According to the article:

                    Under the new policy, employees are able to take off three days of work after an abortion or any type of pregnancy loss.

                    Bereavement leave for "any type of pregnancy loss" ... this is a humane, empathetic policy.

                    If you believe it’s just a lump of cells then in what way is a “humane and empathetic policy” necessary? Should I get bereavement leave for my tonsillectomy?

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 02:23 last edited by
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                    @lufins-dad said in Bereavement Leave:

                    If you believe it’s just a lump of cells then in what way is a “humane and empathetic policy” necessary? Should I get bereavement leave for my tonsillectomy?

                    Very few things are truly "necessary," even then you have to ask "necessary for what?"

                    "Humanity" and "empathy" are themselves not strictly necessary. I said only that the policy is "humane and empathetic", not that it is "necessary." Taking days off for Christmas and Thanksgiving and Independence Days is neither "humane," "empathetic," nor "necessary," yet you take time off for these occasions anyway.

                    From time to time, pull your head out of the pro-choice/pro-life dichotomy and see the humanity and empathy in letting those who have lost pregnancies to take some time off to grief.

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                    • A Axtremus
                      29 Oct 2021, 02:23

                      @lufins-dad said in Bereavement Leave:

                      If you believe it’s just a lump of cells then in what way is a “humane and empathetic policy” necessary? Should I get bereavement leave for my tonsillectomy?

                      Very few things are truly "necessary," even then you have to ask "necessary for what?"

                      "Humanity" and "empathy" are themselves not strictly necessary. I said only that the policy is "humane and empathetic", not that it is "necessary." Taking days off for Christmas and Thanksgiving and Independence Days is neither "humane," "empathetic," nor "necessary," yet you take time off for these occasions anyway.

                      From time to time, pull your head out of the pro-choice/pro-life dichotomy and see the humanity and empathy in letting those who have lost pregnancies to take some time off to grief.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 02:25 last edited by
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                      @axtremus said in Bereavement Leave:

                      "Humanity" and "empathy" are themselves not strictly necessary.

                      Don't worry, man, it never crossed my mind you ever felt otherwise.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        29 Oct 2021, 02:23

                        @lufins-dad said in Bereavement Leave:

                        If you believe it’s just a lump of cells then in what way is a “humane and empathetic policy” necessary? Should I get bereavement leave for my tonsillectomy?

                        Very few things are truly "necessary," even then you have to ask "necessary for what?"

                        "Humanity" and "empathy" are themselves not strictly necessary. I said only that the policy is "humane and empathetic", not that it is "necessary." Taking days off for Christmas and Thanksgiving and Independence Days is neither "humane," "empathetic," nor "necessary," yet you take time off for these occasions anyway.

                        From time to time, pull your head out of the pro-choice/pro-life dichotomy and see the humanity and empathy in letting those who have lost pregnancies to take some time off to grief.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 02:31 last edited by
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                        @axtremus said in Bereavement Leave:

                        see the humanity and empathy in letting those who have lost pregnancies to take some time off to grief.

                        Lock 'em up, murderers. Have some empathy for the dead baby.

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