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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 14 May 2020, 14:44 last edited by
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    Oh joy.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Mik
      wrote on 14 May 2020, 15:01 last edited by
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      Maybe if their kids are endangered the 'open it up' folks will reconsider.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Mik
        wrote on 14 May 2020, 15:02 last edited by
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        But sometimes you have to wonder if the planet has had quite enough of us.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          14 May 2020, 14:44

          Oh joy.

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          George K
          wrote on 14 May 2020, 20:48 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in Pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome:

          Oh joy.

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8318817/British-children-struck-mysterious-inflammatory-syndrome-healthy.html

          None of the children who have suffered from a rare inflammatory syndrome caused by COVID-19 in the UK had long-term health problems before falling ill, doctors say.

          Between 75 and 100 children are known to have developed the illness, which can cause symptoms similar to sepsis, since the beginning of April.

          In adults, many of the coronavirus patients who become most seriously ill are those with other health problems, such as high blood pressure, diabetes or heart disease - dubbed 'underlying health conditions'.

          But all the children treated for this inflammatory disease so far had been healthy before they caught the coronavirus, according to Dr Liz Whittaker.

          Dr Whittaker is a paediatrician at Imperial College Healthcare in London and has herself treated children with the illness, which has been likened to Kawasaki disease.

          She said they are not showing signs of 'typical' COVID-19 infection and it was not obvious why some children were worse affected than others.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 18 May 2020, 21:49 last edited by
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            A patient account.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/17/health/coronavirus-multisystem-fnflammatory-syndrome-children-teenagers.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • J jon-nyc
              18 May 2020, 21:49

              A patient account.

              https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/17/health/coronavirus-multisystem-fnflammatory-syndrome-children-teenagers.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

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              Rainman
              wrote on 18 May 2020, 22:41 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome:

              A patient account.

              https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/17/health/coronavirus-multisystem-fnflammatory-syndrome-children-teenagers.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

              Thanks for posting that, Jon. Very informative article, including the plight of this boy at a personal level. Fortunately, happy ending for him, at least so far.

              From the article:
              "Suspecting he might have a condition like mononucleosis, they prepared to discharge him, thinking he could be safely watched at home with instructions to return if his blood pressure dropped again, his parents said.

              His mother was urging them to keep Jack longer when his eyes turned red with a “raging case of pinkeye” and rolled back in his head, she said. After a conversation with Jack’s pediatrician, the hospital conducted its own coronavirus test. It was positive."

              They sure seem to want people to not stay in the hospital. If they don't really know what's going on, why send him home? They were going to send me home as well, and it's possible that I would have croaked. Fortunately, my wife put up a fuss, so I was admitted, and the rest is, as they say, history.

              My point or question, reiterated: why are emergency room docs, or at least some of them, so eager IMO to send a sick person home, when they have more questions than answers as to what is wrong?

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              • R Rainman
                18 May 2020, 22:41

                @jon-nyc said in Pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome:

                A patient account.

                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/17/health/coronavirus-multisystem-fnflammatory-syndrome-children-teenagers.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

                Thanks for posting that, Jon. Very informative article, including the plight of this boy at a personal level. Fortunately, happy ending for him, at least so far.

                From the article:
                "Suspecting he might have a condition like mononucleosis, they prepared to discharge him, thinking he could be safely watched at home with instructions to return if his blood pressure dropped again, his parents said.

                His mother was urging them to keep Jack longer when his eyes turned red with a “raging case of pinkeye” and rolled back in his head, she said. After a conversation with Jack’s pediatrician, the hospital conducted its own coronavirus test. It was positive."

                They sure seem to want people to not stay in the hospital. If they don't really know what's going on, why send him home? They were going to send me home as well, and it's possible that I would have croaked. Fortunately, my wife put up a fuss, so I was admitted, and the rest is, as they say, history.

                My point or question, reiterated: why are emergency room docs, or at least some of them, so eager IMO to send a sick person home, when they have more questions than answers as to what is wrong?

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                Jolly
                wrote on 18 May 2020, 23:06 last edited by
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                @Rainman said in Pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome:

                @jon-nyc said in Pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome:

                A patient account.

                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/17/health/coronavirus-multisystem-fnflammatory-syndrome-children-teenagers.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

                Thanks for posting that, Jon. Very informative article, including the plight of this boy at a personal level. Fortunately, happy ending for him, at least so far.

                From the article:
                "Suspecting he might have a condition like mononucleosis, they prepared to discharge him, thinking he could be safely watched at home with instructions to return if his blood pressure dropped again, his parents said.

                His mother was urging them to keep Jack longer when his eyes turned red with a “raging case of pinkeye” and rolled back in his head, she said. After a conversation with Jack’s pediatrician, the hospital conducted its own coronavirus test. It was positive."

                They sure seem to want people to not stay in the hospital. If they don't really know what's going on, why send him home? They were going to send me home as well, and it's possible that I would have croaked. Fortunately, my wife put up a fuss, so I was admitted, and the rest is, as they say, history.

                My point or question, reiterated: why are emergency room docs, or at least some of them, so eager IMO to send a sick person home, when they have more questions than answers as to what is wrong?

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                  Loki
                  wrote on 19 May 2020, 01:53 last edited by
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                  “The good news is that, like Kawasaki disease, almost all the kids are treatable,’’ Schleien said. “It is highly likely that, with treatment, they’re going to be fine. It’s not like the fear of COVID-19 where we know there are no treatments and it’s a matter of luck.’’

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                  • L Loki
                    19 May 2020, 01:53

                    “The good news is that, like Kawasaki disease, almost all the kids are treatable,’’ Schleien said. “It is highly likely that, with treatment, they’re going to be fine. It’s not like the fear of COVID-19 where we know there are no treatments and it’s a matter of luck.’’

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                    Rainman
                    wrote on 19 May 2020, 02:33 last edited by
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                    @Loki
                    My concern is when the public schools open this coming fall. Everything will be fine, until something like the Kawasaki disease hits, then parents will go ballistic.
                    I did hear a reasonable governor speak to this yesterday. Don't remember who it was. He said that when schools open, if Covid hits, they may have to keep kids home for a couple of weeks. His perspective was that switching from school to online could be a solution parents could get used to.
                    Problem is, in my experience, most parents will be caught in the scenario where they cannot find daycare that is equivalent to some sort of part-time model. And then once again, the finger pointing will begin.

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                    • R Rainman
                      19 May 2020, 02:33

                      @Loki
                      My concern is when the public schools open this coming fall. Everything will be fine, until something like the Kawasaki disease hits, then parents will go ballistic.
                      I did hear a reasonable governor speak to this yesterday. Don't remember who it was. He said that when schools open, if Covid hits, they may have to keep kids home for a couple of weeks. His perspective was that switching from school to online could be a solution parents could get used to.
                      Problem is, in my experience, most parents will be caught in the scenario where they cannot find daycare that is equivalent to some sort of part-time model. And then once again, the finger pointing will begin.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 19 May 2020, 03:04 last edited by
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                      @Rainman said in Pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome:

                      @Loki
                      My concern is when the public schools open this coming fall. Everything will be fine, until something like the Kawasaki disease hits, then parents will go ballistic.
                      I did hear a reasonable governor speak to this yesterday. Don't remember who it was. He said that when schools open, if Covid hits, they may have to keep kids home for a couple of weeks. His perspective was that switching from school to online could be a solution parents could get used to.
                      Problem is, in my experience, most parents will be caught in the scenario where they cannot find daycare that is equivalent to some sort of part-time model. And then once again, the finger pointing will begin.

                      Too many one parent families. Too many families where both parents work.

                      You can't open and close schools like a window shade.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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