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18th International Chopin Competition

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    From today's competitors....here's Boao Zhang (18 years old!) playing what most pianists consider to be the hardest etude, Op. 10 No. 2. Knocks it off with ease.

    Link to video
    I think he's a candidate to advance to the finals.

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      From today's competitors....here's Boao Zhang (18 years old!) playing what most pianists consider to be the hardest etude, Op. 10 No. 2. Knocks it off with ease.

      Link to video
      I think he's a candidate to advance to the finals.

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      @sd-tav said in 18th International Chopin Competition:

      the hardest etude, Op. 10 No. 2.

      There are more rankings of Chopin Etude difficulty than Etudes, but I've never seen anyone propose 10/2 for the top spot.

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        @sd-tav said in 18th International Chopin Competition:

        the hardest etude, Op. 10 No. 2.

        There are more rankings of Chopin Etude difficulty than Etudes, but I've never seen anyone propose 10/2 for the top spot.

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        @klaus Here's an interesting ranking of all of the etudes
        [Chopin Etudes](

        Link to video)!
        He does mention Op. 10 Nos. 1 and 2 (I agree!) and Op. 25 No. 6. the double thirds one is a real b*tch! I can only play it at half tempo.

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          I would never have guessed he's only 18, I mean if I walked by him on the street.

          I haven't studied the etudes enough to have a strong ranking viewpoint, but agree that 10/2 is a bear.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            From today's competitors....here's Boao Zhang (18 years old!) playing what most pianists consider to be the hardest etude, Op. 10 No. 2. Knocks it off with ease.

            Link to video
            I think he's a candidate to advance to the finals.

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            @sd-tav said in 18th International Chopin Competition:

            Boao Zhang (18 years old!) playing […] etude, Op. 10 No. 2. Knocks it off with ease.

            Went listen because you called out him out. Agree with you assessment that he knocked Op.10 #2 out of the park; that performance was divine. šŸ‘

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              The list of competitors who advanced to Stage 1 has been posted.

              The preliminary round eliminated half of the competitors. A little over 2/3 of competitors from China advanced. Just a bit less than half of Japan’s competitors advanced. Amazingly, 15 out of 16 competitors from Poland advanced!

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                The list of competitors who advanced to Stage 1 has been posted.

                The preliminary round eliminated half of the competitors. A little over 2/3 of competitors from China advanced. Just a bit less than half of Japan’s competitors advanced. Amazingly, 15 out of 16 competitors from Poland advanced!

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                @axtremus said in 18th International Chopin Competition:

                Amazingly, 15 out of 16 competitors from Poland advanced!

                Quick, let's turn this into a partisan issue such that we know whether to condemn or defend this.

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                  The list of competitors who advanced to Stage 1 has been posted.

                  The preliminary round eliminated half of the competitors. A little over 2/3 of competitors from China advanced. Just a bit less than half of Japan’s competitors advanced. Amazingly, 15 out of 16 competitors from Poland advanced!

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                  @axtremus Of course the Polish competitors advanced. They could understand the application! 😁

                  I'm looking forward to watching the finals in October. A piano friend told me she hopes to be able to attend the competition in Warsaw. I said, "you do realize that the competitors mostly play Chopin?" She slammed the piano lid on my fingers!šŸ˜•

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                    Not sure if anyone is following this. The subsequent rounds of this competition is taking place now, Oct.3 to Oct.16, then the final from Oct.18-20.

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                      The 12 finalists have been announced. They will compete this week to determine the winner. Should be interesting! There are really fine players in this group.
                      Chopin competition web site

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                        @axtremus said in 18th International Chopin Competition:

                        @klaus said in 18th International Chopin Competition:

                        One thing this competition reminds me of: I don't really like most of the Mazurkas. Does anyone? I like almost everything else from Chopin, but the Mazurkas don't work for me.

                        The Mazurkas are where Chopin went full Polish, they are more "ethnic music" than "classical music", so I supposed from that standpoint it does not surprise me that the Mazurkas do not appeal to the non-Poles the same way the other Chopin pieces do.

                        What little I listened to, skipping around, was impressive technically and expressively.

                        ā€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.ā€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Final results:
                          https://chopin2020.pl/en/news/article/437/the-winner-of-the-18th-chopin-competition!

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                            I think Ms. Kobayashi deserved a bit higher of a placement…

                            The Brad

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                              I think Ms. Kobayashi deserved a bit higher of a placement…

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                              @lufins-dad said in 18th International Chopin Competition:

                              I think Ms. Kobayashi deserved a bit higher of a placement…

                              Have Kirk reprogram it

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