Netflix and Chappelle
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Sooo....
Apparently Dave Chappelle had a Netflix special, and, being Dave Chappelle, he said some things that are "irreverent."
The woke mob has gone nuts.
To his credit, the CEO of Netflix said FOAD:
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/ted-sarandos-dave-chappelle-defense-1235088647/
“We know that a number of you have been left angry, disappointed and hurt by our decision to put Dave Chappelle’s latest special on Netflix,” Sarandos wrote in an email obtained by Variety.
“With ‘The Closer,’ we understand that the concern is not about offensive-to-some content but titles which could increase real world harm (such as further marginalizing already marginalized groups, hate, violence etc.) Last year, we heard similar concerns about 365 Days and violence against women. While some employees disagree, we have a strong belief that content on screen doesn’t directly translate to real-world harm,” he said.
“The strongest evidence to support this is that violence on screens has grown hugely over the last thirty years, especially with first party shooter games, and yet violent crime has fallen significantly in many countries. Adults can watch violence, assault and abuse – or enjoy shocking stand-up comedy – without it causing them to harm others,” he continued.
Well, the wokeristas are unhappy:
Tensions are rising inside Netflix Inc. NFLX +0.71% over a Dave Chappelle stand-up special that some employees said was offensive to the transgender community, the latest clash between the streaming giant’s radical-candor culture and its embrace of creative freedom.
A Netflix transgender-employee group is encouraging staff to stage a walkout next Wednesday to protest Co-Chief Executive and Chief Content Officer Ted Sarandos’s recent defense of Mr. Chappelle’s special. The plans for a walkout were earlier reported by the Verge and confirmed by Netflix.
In “The Closer,” which was released last week and is currently among the most-watched programs on the service in the U.S., Mr. Chappelle said “gender is a fact” and said he identified as a “TERF,” an acronym that stands for “trans-exclusionary radical feminist.” Mr. Chappelle said he isn’t a favorite of the trans community, then added, “Someone told me, ‘They after you, Dave,’ and I said, ‘One they or many theys?’ ”
A day after the special’s release, Terra Field, a Netflix software engineer who is transgender, criticized the show on Twitter, saying Mr. Chappelle attacked “the trans community, and the very validity of transness.” The tweets went viral and led to a backlash inside the streaming giant over the special. Groups including LGBTQ-rights advocacy group GLAAD spoke up against the show, and the National Black Justice Coalition asked for Netflix to take the special off its platform.
Let 'em walk. Fire their asses and get back to streaming movies, etc.
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This has been a long time coming. His previous Netflix special opened up with a pretty hard hit against cancel culture.
The thing with Chappelle is that he just doesn't give a shit. He's gonna do what he's gonna do.
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This has been a long time coming. His previous Netflix special opened up with a pretty hard hit against cancel culture.
The thing with Chappelle is that he just doesn't give a shit. He's gonna do what he's gonna do.
@aqua-letifer said in Netflix and Chappelle:
This has been a long time coming. His previous Netflix special opened up with a pretty hard hit against cancel culture.
The thing with Chappelle is that he just doesn't give a shit. He's gonna do what he's gonna do.
Why would he give a shit? Woke people have no sense of humor to begin with, so they are not part of his target audience. Add to that, how easy it is to make fun of that group of mainstream imbeciles, and there isn't anything about them that Mr Chappelle should reasonably care about.
As for Netflix standing by him, well, I'll guess that they're finding it easier to do so, due to the color of Mr Chappelle's skin. And, presumably, for the not-quite-third-rail type of his offensive takes, whatever they were. I'll have to watch the special.
Education is extremely important.
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Sooo....
Apparently Dave Chappelle had a Netflix special, and, being Dave Chappelle, he said some things that are "irreverent."
The woke mob has gone nuts.
To his credit, the CEO of Netflix said FOAD:
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/ted-sarandos-dave-chappelle-defense-1235088647/
“We know that a number of you have been left angry, disappointed and hurt by our decision to put Dave Chappelle’s latest special on Netflix,” Sarandos wrote in an email obtained by Variety.
“With ‘The Closer,’ we understand that the concern is not about offensive-to-some content but titles which could increase real world harm (such as further marginalizing already marginalized groups, hate, violence etc.) Last year, we heard similar concerns about 365 Days and violence against women. While some employees disagree, we have a strong belief that content on screen doesn’t directly translate to real-world harm,” he said.
“The strongest evidence to support this is that violence on screens has grown hugely over the last thirty years, especially with first party shooter games, and yet violent crime has fallen significantly in many countries. Adults can watch violence, assault and abuse – or enjoy shocking stand-up comedy – without it causing them to harm others,” he continued.
Well, the wokeristas are unhappy:
Tensions are rising inside Netflix Inc. NFLX +0.71% over a Dave Chappelle stand-up special that some employees said was offensive to the transgender community, the latest clash between the streaming giant’s radical-candor culture and its embrace of creative freedom.
A Netflix transgender-employee group is encouraging staff to stage a walkout next Wednesday to protest Co-Chief Executive and Chief Content Officer Ted Sarandos’s recent defense of Mr. Chappelle’s special. The plans for a walkout were earlier reported by the Verge and confirmed by Netflix.
In “The Closer,” which was released last week and is currently among the most-watched programs on the service in the U.S., Mr. Chappelle said “gender is a fact” and said he identified as a “TERF,” an acronym that stands for “trans-exclusionary radical feminist.” Mr. Chappelle said he isn’t a favorite of the trans community, then added, “Someone told me, ‘They after you, Dave,’ and I said, ‘One they or many theys?’ ”
A day after the special’s release, Terra Field, a Netflix software engineer who is transgender, criticized the show on Twitter, saying Mr. Chappelle attacked “the trans community, and the very validity of transness.” The tweets went viral and led to a backlash inside the streaming giant over the special. Groups including LGBTQ-rights advocacy group GLAAD spoke up against the show, and the National Black Justice Coalition asked for Netflix to take the special off its platform.
Let 'em walk. Fire their asses and get back to streaming movies, etc.
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Got a haircut this morning and was listening to NPR on the way, whining about Chappelle's show and how awful it was that he didn't embrace transgender folk. They missed the point entirely and, I believe, deliberately. He wasn't after trans people he was pointing out the absurdity of Da Baby killing someone with no effect on his career, but getting shut down when he hurt someone's feelings.
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@aqua-letifer said in Netflix and Chappelle:
This has been a long time coming. His previous Netflix special opened up with a pretty hard hit against cancel culture.
The thing with Chappelle is that he just doesn't give a shit. He's gonna do what he's gonna do.
Why would he give a shit? Woke people have no sense of humor to begin with, so they are not part of his target audience. Add to that, how easy it is to make fun of that group of mainstream imbeciles, and there isn't anything about them that Mr Chappelle should reasonably care about.
As for Netflix standing by him, well, I'll guess that they're finding it easier to do so, due to the color of Mr Chappelle's skin. And, presumably, for the not-quite-third-rail type of his offensive takes, whatever they were. I'll have to watch the special.
@horace said in Netflix and Chappelle:
@aqua-letifer said in Netflix and Chappelle:
This has been a long time coming. His previous Netflix special opened up with a pretty hard hit against cancel culture.
The thing with Chappelle is that he just doesn't give a shit. He's gonna do what he's gonna do.
Why would he give a shit? Woke people have no sense of humor to begin with, so they are not part of his target audience. Add to that, how easy it is to make fun of that group of mainstream imbeciles, and there isn't anything about them that Mr Chappelle should reasonably care about.
As for Netflix standing by him, well, I'll guess that they're finding it easier to do so, due to the color of Mr Chappelle's skin. And, presumably, for the not-quite-third-rail type of his offensive takes, whatever they were. I'll have to watch the special.
Doesn't hurt that it is posting some monster streaming numbers........................................................................................
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I watched it yesterday. In the entire 80 minutes, it got one out-loud laugh from me. A fair number of smiles and nods, but it just wasn't that funny, at least to me.
It seems like he spent more time preaching, with some funny anecdotes thrown in, than doing "comedy."
If I want a sermon (and I don't), I'll go to church.
An interesting take from Ann Althouse: https://althouse.blogspot.com/2021/10/the-washington-post-ought-to-have-nerve.html
The Washington Post ought to have the nerve to open a comments section on this article.
"Netflix CEO argues that Chappelle’s new special, criticized as transphobic, is too popular to cancel" by Julian Mark.
The memo followed condemnation from Jaclyn Moore, a transgender writer who worked on the Netflix original “Dear White People”....
Last week, Moore... wrote on Twitter that Chappelle used to be one of her “heroes.” “But he said he’s a TERF,” Moore wrote. “He compared my existence to someone doing blackface.” Moore said she was “done” with Netflix.
I recommend more speech. Why is what transgender women are doing different from blackface? Moore's answer is implied and worth discussing: Because it's "my existence."By the way, I was just reading the 1995 book "Last Train to Memphis: The Rise of Elvis Presley" and I encountered this:
[Dewey Phillips had a radio show of a type that] had started in Memphis and that was springing up in one form or another all across the South: black music on a white radio station with a strong Negro audience and a growing, if for the most part unacknowledged, core of young white listeners with a growing, if for the most part unexamined, buying power...
Perhaps [Sam Phillips and Dewey Phillips] wandered over to Beale Street, where Dewey, who has been described as “transracial” by more than one admirer, could go wherever he liked, where Dewey, Sam came to see with some ambivalence, was “a hero, everyone loved him.”
Of course, Dewey wasn't attempting to look like a black person, so that's not like blackface at all, but there is the idea of a white person finding his "existence" (or identity) with things associated with black people and viewing it in a very positive way.
If you look up the word "transracial," you'll be swamped with material about the "transracial" adoption of children, so I failed to find other examples of "transracial" that paralleled "transgender."
ADDED: Let's be clear about what Chappelle said: "[TERFS] look at transgender women the way we blacks look at blackface. They go 'Oh, this bitch is doing an impression of me!’"
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He's got Emeritus status now but as a young man he was among the funniest comics IMO. He doesn't really try to be funny so much anymore, he's just Dave Chappelle on stage and it gets the appropriate response. It seems that it's not uncommon for older 'legendary' comics to get to that stage.
Education is extremely important.
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He's got Emeritus status now but as a young man he was among the funniest comics IMO. He doesn't really try to be funny so much anymore, he's just Dave Chappelle on stage and it gets the appropriate response. It seems that it's not uncommon for older 'legendary' comics to get to that stage.
@horace said in Netflix and Chappelle:
He's got Emeritus status now but as a young man he was among the funniest comics IMO. He doesn't really try to be funny so much anymore, he's just Dave Chappelle on stage and it gets the appropriate response. It seems that it's not uncommon for older 'legendary' comics to get to that stage.
He doesn't do that all the time. Some performances are funny, others not. He still tries out new material with rando audiences from time to time.
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I have to admit that this was my first exposure to Chappelle.
Are his earlier shows funnier?
