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"Mutual Combatants"

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    George K
    wrote on 6 Oct 2021, 11:55 last edited by George K 10 Jun 2021, 11:56
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    Prosecutors reject charges against 5 suspects in deadly gang-related gunfight in Austin: ‘It’s just like the Wild West’

    Five men linked to a deadly gang-related shootout Friday in Austin were released from custody after prosecutors declined to charge each of them with a pair of felonies, including first-degree murder, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.

    The brazen mid-morning gunfight, which left one shooter dead and two of the suspects wounded, stemmed from an internal dispute between two factions of the Four Corner Hustlers street gang, according to an internal police report and a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation.

    The source said police sought to charge all five suspects with murder and aggravated battery. By Sunday morning, a Chicago police spokeswoman acknowledged the suspects had “been released without charges.”

    In a statement later Sunday, Cristina Villareal, a spokeswoman for the Cook County state’s attorney’s office, explained that prosecutors had “determined that the evidence was insufficient to meet our burden of proof to approve felony charges.” Police officials agreed with the decision, Villareal added.

    While she wouldn’t specify what other evidence prosecutors needed to file charges, the police report acknowledged that victims of the shootout weren’t cooperating with investigators.

    But the report also framed the state’s attorney’s office’s decision to decline charges in a different light: “Mutual combatants was cited as the reason for the rejection.” Mutual combat is a legal term used to define a fight or struggle that two parties willingly engage in.

    Last week, Cook County prosecutors came under fire after reportedly making a similar argument after a teenager was stabbed to death during a fight in Schaumburg. The family of the victim, 18-year-old Manuel Porties Jr., later told WGN that prosecutors specifically said they weren’t charging the 17-year-old suspect with murder because the fatal fight amounted to mutual combat.

    Jesus....

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 6 Oct 2021, 11:56 last edited by
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      Yeah, I saw that yesterday and was going to ask you about it.

      The Brad

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 6 Oct 2021, 12:08 last edited by
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        I guess their just allowed to do that now.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • J jon-nyc
          6 Oct 2021, 12:08

          I guess their just allowed to do that now.

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          George K
          wrote on 6 Oct 2021, 12:14 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in "Mutual Combatants":

          I guess their just allowed to do that now.

          Thunderdome would be a safer solution as far as the neighborhood goes.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 6 Oct 2021, 14:22 last edited by
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            Seen on twitter: "Did Chicago just bring back duels?* "

            *note: duels resulting in death rather than "satisfaction" were punished as murder

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 6 Oct 2021, 14:46 last edited by
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              Meanwhile, on the North Side:

              Link to video

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 6 Oct 2021, 18:55 last edited by
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                https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/03/09/chicago-murder-rate-compared-with-foreign-countries/

                CHICAGO (CBS) — Much has been reported about Chicago’s murder problem.

                Justin Fields Named Bears Starting Quarterback Going Forward
                While the raw numbers are staggering, the city is nowhere near deadliest city in the U.S., which is New Orleans.

                In 2012, Zara Matheson of the Martin Prosperity Institute took the comparisons a step further, comparing U.S. city firearm murder rates with other nations.

                Chicago would be comparable to Guyana.

                New Orleans, if it were a country, would be the second-deadliest nation on the planet.

                Seen on a blog: "When Haitan migrants claim they live in danger in Chile, why should they be allowed in when Chicago is more dangerous?"

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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