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You are dead to me.

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    I am more careful with friends who are not, but I’m not cutting ties.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #6

      This is a point that I keep trying to come back to, though not one I feel that I’ve covered well here. When this is all said and done, we are going to need to be able to live with each other…

      The Brad

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      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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        #7

        To be serious - I'm not shunning anybody. Our elderly next door neighbour isn't vaccinated, we're not about to turn our backs on her. I really wish she'd get the shot, for her own sake.

        I was only joking

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        • AxtremusA Away
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          Axtremus
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          #8

          @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

          So why shun a family member who is not?

          Maybe it’s a good excuse to shun someone you have been thinking about shunning for a long time anyway.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            #9

            So do I.

            But don't force people.

            We had four people quit the local tv station today, one of them has been there over 30 years and is one of the best on-air weather guys in the state.

            Vaccinate or lose your job.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              So do I.

              But don't force people.

              We had four people quit the local tv station today, one of them has been there over 30 years and is one of the best on-air weather guys in the state.

              Vaccinate or lose your job.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #10

              @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

              But don't force people.

              Well, that's great in theory, but when we go back to the office, I don't want to be forced up close with unvaccinated people. They can work from home, but I don't want them near me when I don't have a choice in the matter. My neighbour isn't the same thing - I can choose to help her or not.

              I was only joking

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                #11

                Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                What do you have to be afraid of?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                  What do you have to be afraid of?

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                  Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                  What do you have to be afraid of?

                  This is where the CDC’s policy of only counting hospitalizations for breakthrough cases is dangerous…

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                    Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                    What do you have to be afraid of?

                    This is where the CDC’s policy of only counting hospitalizations for breakthrough cases is dangerous…

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                    @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                    @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                    Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                    What do you have to be afraid of?

                    This is where the CDC’s policy of only counting hospitalizations for breakthrough cases is dangerous…

                    You lost me a bit...Care to explain for the slow folks?😊

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                      @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                      Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                      What do you have to be afraid of?

                      This is where the CDC’s policy of only counting hospitalizations for breakthrough cases is dangerous…

                      You lost me a bit...Care to explain for the slow folks?😊

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                      @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                      @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                      Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                      What do you have to be afraid of?

                      This is where the CDC’s policy of only counting hospitalizations for breakthrough cases is dangerous…

                      You lost me a bit...Care to explain for the slow folks?😊

                      Everybody is believing that they are much safer from spread if they are among other vaccinated individuals, but Delta is spreading through vaccinated groups at only a slightly lower pace than the unvaxxed.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                        @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                        @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                        Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                        What do you have to be afraid of?

                        This is where the CDC’s policy of only counting hospitalizations for breakthrough cases is dangerous…

                        You lost me a bit...Care to explain for the slow folks?😊

                        Everybody is believing that they are much safer from spread if they are among other vaccinated individuals, but Delta is spreading through vaccinated groups at only a slightly lower pace than the unvaxxed.

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                        @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                        @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                        @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                        @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                        Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                        What do you have to be afraid of?

                        This is where the CDC’s policy of only counting hospitalizations for breakthrough cases is dangerous…

                        You lost me a bit...Care to explain for the slow folks?😊

                        Everybody is believing that they are much safer from spread if they are among other vaccinated individuals, but Delta is spreading through vaccinated groups at only a slightly lower pace than the unvaxxed.

                        Do you honestly think you are comparing apples to apples? Are you saying the rate of infection is the same, the hospitalizations are the same and the deaths are the same? I don’t think so because you are vaccinated so I am missing something.

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                          There is a difference between truly shunning/cutting ties and not seeing someone for both safety and perhaps messaging. I think there is a significant distinction and maybe I didn’t read the article close enough but I don’t think they made it clear.

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                            Again, if you are vaccinated, what do you have to fear from the unvaccinated?

                            Seems to me, with the transmissability of Delta, it ought to be the other way around...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                              @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                              @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                              @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                              Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                              What do you have to be afraid of?

                              This is where the CDC’s policy of only counting hospitalizations for breakthrough cases is dangerous…

                              You lost me a bit...Care to explain for the slow folks?😊

                              Everybody is believing that they are much safer from spread if they are among other vaccinated individuals, but Delta is spreading through vaccinated groups at only a slightly lower pace than the unvaxxed.

                              Do you honestly think you are comparing apples to apples? Are you saying the rate of infection is the same, the hospitalizations are the same and the deaths are the same? I don’t think so because you are vaccinated so I am missing something.

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              @loki said in You are dead to me.:

                              @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                              @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                              @lufins-dad said in You are dead to me.:

                              @jolly said in You are dead to me.:

                              Why? You're the one vaccinated.

                              What do you have to be afraid of?

                              This is where the CDC’s policy of only counting hospitalizations for breakthrough cases is dangerous…

                              You lost me a bit...Care to explain for the slow folks?😊

                              Everybody is believing that they are much safer from spread if they are among other vaccinated individuals, but Delta is spreading through vaccinated groups at only a slightly lower pace than the unvaxxed.

                              Do you honestly think you are comparing apples to apples? Are you saying the rate of infection is the same, the hospitalizations are the same and the deaths are the same? I don’t think so because you are vaccinated so I am missing something.

                              Well, the CDC thinks he has a point. This is an excerpt from their 8/2/21 update:

                              Added a recommendation for fully vaccinated people who have come into close contact with someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 to be tested 3-5 days after exposure, and to wear a mask in public indoor settings for 14 days or until they receive a negative test result.

                              Now, if the CDC thinks a vaccinated person needs to quarantine and be tested after a viable incubation period, what does that say to everybody?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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