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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Yes. It’s utter nonsense.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Not a fan of Biden; but when he made the original announcement, he specifically stated that he had not agreed with our presence there and while he cited President Trump's commitment, he essentially said that he agreed with the decision if not the exact timing.

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      • kluursK kluurs

        Not a fan of Biden; but when he made the original announcement, he specifically stated that he had not agreed with our presence there and while he cited President Trump's commitment, he essentially said that he agreed with the decision if not the exact timing.

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        George K
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        @kluurs said in Blinken blames Trump:

        he essentially said that he agreed with the decision if not the exact timing

        IOW, we'll get out...

        What was preventing the Biden administration from breaking the timing agreement? It has a history of breaking others.

        The cynical side of me says he wanted to have a 9/11 "photo-op" in which he declares that we're out of Afghanistan.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @kluurs said in Blinken blames Trump:

          he essentially said that he agreed with the decision if not the exact timing

          IOW, we'll get out...

          What was preventing the Biden administration from breaking the timing agreement? It has a history of breaking others.

          The cynical side of me says he wanted to have a 9/11 "photo-op" in which he declares that we're out of Afghanistan.

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          @george-k said in Blinken blames Trump:

          The cynical side of me says he wanted to have a 9/11 "photo-op" in which he declares that we're out of Afghanistan.

          That's exactly what he wanted to do. Meeting Trump's deadline put everything on Trump - making it a 9/11 celebration would mean taking the limelight himself. What's amusing is that once it became clear this was a bit of a clusterfuck, the decision became an orphan with both parents reluctant to claim parentage.

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            There was no good way to get out and we would be criticized no matter what- never enough people to get out to meet a designation that we got all the right people out- i call BS on that. But but but the way we got out was still a disaster and I see no evidence of win win on the negotiation.

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              We were going to get out, but some small things would have made a huge difference.

              1. Don't leave in the middle of fighting season.
              2. Keep Bagram.
              3. Allow contractors to keep the Afghani air force flying

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                We were going to get out, but some small things would have made a huge difference.

                1. Don't leave in the middle of fighting season.
                2. Keep Bagram.
                3. Allow contractors to keep the Afghani air force flying
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                @jolly said in Blinken blames Trump:

                We were going to get out, but some small things would have made a huge difference.

                1. Don't leave in the middle of fighting season.
                2. Keep Bagram.
                3. Allow contractors to keep the Afghani air force flying

                Simple but true.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Meanwhile, Sen. Menendez is quite unhappy that SecDef Austin didn't appear before the Senate to testify.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    When your own party is criticizing you...

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      When your own party is criticizing you...

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                      @mik said in Blinken blames Trump:

                      When your own party is criticizing you...

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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