Denmark

[Aqua Letifer]

@jolly said in Denmark:

If Larry is right (and he is) what do you propose to do about it?

Show me the numbers because to a person, everyone in my neighborhood who is anti-vaxx is a rabid Trumpist. I literally mean to a person.

But anyway it's no skin off my nose if 80% of them were liberals, fuck 'em either way.

I'm fine with making the vaccines mandatory for employment or public school. No I don't give any kind of a fuck what kind of problem you or anyone else has with that, it's what I'd do and it's not up to me so what does it even matter.

[Jolly]

@aqua-letifer said in Denmark:

@jolly said in Denmark:

If Larry is right (and he is) what do you propose to do about it?

Show me the numbers because to a person, everyone in my neighborhood who is anti-vaxx is a rabid Trumpist. I literally mean to a person.

But anyway it's no skin off my nose if 80% of them were liberals, fuck 'em either way.

I'm fine with making the vaccines mandatory for employment or public school. No I don't give any kind of a fuck what kind of problem you or anyone else has with that, it's what I'd do and it's not up to me so what does it even matter.

Then get your rifle and let's have at it.

Do you have that kind of committment?

[Aqua Letifer]

@jolly said in Denmark:

Then get your rifle and let's have at it.
Do you have that kind of committment?

I just said I'm not in charge so what do I care. But man you sure do talking about shooting people quite a bit.

[Jolly]

@aqua-letifer said in Denmark:

@jolly said in Denmark:

Then get your rifle and let's have at it.
Do you have that kind of committment?

I just said I'm not in charge so what do I care. But man you sure do talking about shooting people quite a bit.

No, I wanted to see what your level of commitment was.

I think the mandatory vaccine issue is much bigger than just a vaccine. I think it is a vast overreach of Federal authority. I think it is worth going to the mattresses over.

And as for shooting people...It's hard to do. They run, they dodge and they duck...

[Mik]

It's a constitutional issue, do we or do we not have sovereignty over our own bodies. It's also a public health issue. I can see both sides. In the end, I believe we have to adhere to the constitution. Individual rights have been confounding organizational effectiveness since day one. Ask any cop. It is the price we pay for having our rights assured.

[Catseye3]

@mik said in Denmark:

I can see both sides. In the end, I believe we have to adhere to the constitution.

I hear you, but I can't get past contagion, and often death as a result of becoming contaminated. It seems like that throws this issue into its own exclusive ballpark.

I wonder how the Founders would have responded to a COVID in their time, after the Constitution was ratified?

[Mik]

[Mik]

Now bear in mind that the army did this in Iraq as well, requiring various vaccines for I think anthrax, etc. Requiring it of civilians is another matter.

[Jolly]

@catseye3 said in Denmark:

@mik said in Denmark:

I can see both sides. In the end, I believe we have to adhere to the constitution.

I hear you, but I can't get past contagion, and often death as a result of becoming contaminated. It seems like that throws this issue into its own exclusive ballpark.

I wonder how the Founders would have responded to a COVID in their time, after the Constitution was ratified?

It's an interesting question, so let's talk about it...

What's the mortality rate of COVID? About 2%? Less?

What if I told you a disease existed when the Constitution was written that had a 30% mortality rate? And if you survived it, you often had hideous scars that stayed with you for life?

Now, what if I told you there was a vaccine for that disease about 84 months after the Constitution was ratified and the law of the land.

And what if I told you that the Framers did not mandate vaccination? Not from the federal level.

What would you say to that?

[George K]

(slightly off-topic)

Is that letter from Washington to Peggy Shippen's father?