Unannounced Condom Removal

[LuFins Dad]

However, it would be hell to prove.

[Jolly]

Yeah, but how are you gonna prove it?

[George K]

Fascinating legal question.

Having intercourse with a woman qualifies as "non-consensual" sexual contact if you remove the condom during the act.

However, leaving it on makes it "consensual?"

I don't get it.

[Klaus]

@george-k said in Unannounced Condom Removal:

Fascinating legal question.

Having intercourse with a woman qualifies as "non-consensual" sexual contact if you remove the condom during the act.

However, leaving it on makes it "consensual?"

I don't get it.

What is so hard to get? If you remove it without consent, then life-changing things can happen. Whether that should be illegal or not, I don't know, but it's for sure an a-hole move.

[Larry]

I want to know how he got the thing off without the woman noticing what he was doing.

[George K]

@klaus said in Unannounced Condom Removal:

What is so hard to get? If you remove it without consent, then life-changing things can happen.

Indeed. This is a major thing to be sure.

Whether that should be illegal or not, I don't know, but it's for sure an a-hole move.

Agreed, again. My point was to ask the question: "If consensual sexual activity with a condom is OK, does consensual sex where the male removes the condom qualify as sexual assault?

I splitting hairs here, to be sure.

"I'll let you do this" is not sexual assault, but "I'll let you do this unless...." does. If a woman agrees to have sex, does she also have the right to specify the conditions of it?

I really don't know.

Should the guy be held responsible? Hell yeah.

Again, I'm putting on my fake lawyer hat.

[George K]

@larry said in Unannounced Condom Removal:

I want to know how he got the thing off without the woman noticing what he was doing.

"It slipped out...wait a second...."

I can totally see that.

[Larry]

@george-k said in Unannounced Condom Removal:

@larry said in Unannounced Condom Removal:

I want to know how he got the thing off without the woman noticing what he was doing.

"It slipped out...wait a second...."

I can totally see that.

How does ones pecker just slip out of a condom?

[George K]

@larry said in Unannounced Condom Removal:

How does ones pecker just slip out of a condom?

That's not what it slipped out of....

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K it’s a contact thing. Is there a difference between a grope over a blouse and one under a blouse? I would argue yes.

And not to be crude, but sex with a condom is like enhanced dryhumping…There is a thin degree of difference in the level of intimacy.

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[George K]

@lufins-dad said in Unannounced Condom Removal:

Is there a difference between a grope over a blouse and one under a blouse? I would argue yes.

I agree.

However, vaginal penetration, I would argue, is a different standard.