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  • ImprovisoI Offline
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    Improviso
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    You mean the customers who elected state and local officials who enacted "hands off policies" for this kind of behavior? Those customers?

    Sorry. You get what you vote for.

    I'd still close every damn store in the state.

    And those who didn't vote for these officials... last time I checked, Oregon doesn't have a wall around the state keeping its citizens from leaving. The smart ones ARE leaving.

    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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      A lot of the USA operates on honor systems.

      Shopping malls used to have “mall cops.” But the malls’ popularity has been waning for a long time. Even before the pandemic, I rarely see “mall cops” when I visited shopping malls.

      Most other stores, “big box” or otherwise, do not hire security guards or security service. Regular store keeping employees are not trained to deal with robbers and burglars and shoplifters who dare to use force. Heck, the employees may even have been explicitly told to not engage in any forceful confrontation. If you’re an employee making $15/hr, neither you nor your loved ones want you to engage in forceful confrontation to protect a few hundreds dollars or your employer’s merchandise. Your employer’s insurance companies most likely do not either.

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        To be honest, the guys in East Oregon would like to secede.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • ImprovisoI Offline
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          Improviso
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          #11

          @jolly said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

          To be honest, the guys in East Oregon would like to secede.

          Many in Virginia would like to kick Northern Virginia out of the state.

          Full of liberals and nothing more than a bedroom community for DC.

          We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
          Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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            Happy memory... Many years ago, my brother, who used to toss people out of bars for a living, was entering a grocery store when a shoplifter dashed out the entrance and shoved my brother. My bro, who could move 250 lb people around with the ease of picking up a cupcake, nearly embedded the guy into the wall.

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            • LarryL Offline
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              Larry
              wrote on last edited by Larry
              #13

              @axtremus said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

              A lot of the USA operates on honor systems.

              Shopping malls used to have “mall cops.” But the malls’ popularity has been waning for a long time. Even before the pandemic, I rarely see “mall cops” when I visited shopping malls.

              Most other stores, “big box” or otherwise, do not hire security guards or security service. Regular store keeping employees are not trained to deal with robbers and burglars and shoplifters who dare to use force. Heck, the employees may even have been explicitly told to not engage in any forceful confrontation. If you’re an employee making $15/hr, neither you nor your loved ones want you to engage in forceful confrontation to protect a few hundreds dollars or your employer’s merchandise. Your employer’s insurance companies most likely do not either.

              You're right, you don't see mall cops any more. You're also correct that you dont see security guards in big stores. In the states that haven't succumbed to leftist idiocy, those outdated methods have been replaced by security camera systems, plain clothes "customers" - security guards dressed like everyone else pretending to shop, but in radio contact with the security guard in the back. Now instead of having to call for a security guard, when you stick something in your pocket the guy behind you pushing a shopping cart communicates with the guy in the back who watches you on camera. Your ass goes to jail.

              That's how it's done here anyway.

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              • ImprovisoI Improviso

                You mean the customers who elected state and local officials who enacted "hands off policies" for this kind of behavior? Those customers?

                Sorry. You get what you vote for.

                I'd still close every damn store in the state.

                And those who didn't vote for these officials... last time I checked, Oregon doesn't have a wall around the state keeping its citizens from leaving. The smart ones ARE leaving.

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                wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                #14

                @improviso said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

                You mean the customers who elected state and local officials who enacted "hands off policies" for this kind of behavior? Those customers?

                So every voting age citizen in Oregon voted that day. And every one of them voted for the hands-off people. So every one of them deserve to be punished. And your solution is to levy on them the same sanctions you're punishing them for, only harsher.

                Got it.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  Larry
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                  #15

                  @catseye3 said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

                  @improviso said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

                  You mean the customers who elected state and local officials who enacted "hands off policies" for this kind of behavior? Those customers?

                  So every voting age citizen in Oregon voted that day. And every one of them voted for the hands-off people. And your solution is to levy on them the same sanctions you're punishing them for, only harsher.

                  Got it.

                  Sometimes I wonder how you manage to find your way home.

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                    Improviso
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                    #16

                    @larry said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

                    Sometimes I wonder how you manage to find your way home.

                    She lives in Northern Virginia...so....

                    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

                    LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      A lot of the USA operates on honor systems.

                      Shopping malls used to have “mall cops.” But the malls’ popularity has been waning for a long time. Even before the pandemic, I rarely see “mall cops” when I visited shopping malls.

                      Most other stores, “big box” or otherwise, do not hire security guards or security service. Regular store keeping employees are not trained to deal with robbers and burglars and shoplifters who dare to use force. Heck, the employees may even have been explicitly told to not engage in any forceful confrontation. If you’re an employee making $15/hr, neither you nor your loved ones want you to engage in forceful confrontation to protect a few hundreds dollars or your employer’s merchandise. Your employer’s insurance companies most likely do not either.

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                      Horace
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                      @axtremus said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

                      A lot of the USA operates on honor systems.

                      Yes all of civilization does. But ultimately it's all backed by the credible threat of violence. White progressive women, who are the primary source of our cultural ideas, are not credible threats of violence. Violence is icky, to them.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • ImprovisoI Improviso

                        @larry said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

                        Sometimes I wonder how you manage to find your way home.

                        She lives in Northern Virginia...so....

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                        @improviso said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

                        @larry said in Picking up some stuff at Lowe's:

                        Sometimes I wonder how you manage to find your way home.

                        She lives in Northern Virginia...so....

                        No, she doesn’t.

                        The Brad

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                          This is why so many urban areas no longer have local shopping.

                          DC is known for not being able to support stores like this.

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