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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

    nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

    Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

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    @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

    @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

    nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

    Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

    Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

      @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

      nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

      Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

      Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

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      #16

      @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

      @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

      @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

      nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

      Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

      Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

      Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

      But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

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        @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

        @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

        @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

        nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

        Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

        Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

        Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

        But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

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        @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

        @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

        @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

        @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

        nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

        Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

        Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

        Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

        But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

        Pure fear has always been your driver. The economy is secondary

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

          @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

          @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

          @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

          nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

          Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

          Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

          Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

          But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

          Pure fear has always been your driver. The economy is secondary

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          Loki
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          #18

          @jolly said in Welcome, Delta?:

          @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

          @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

          @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

          @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

          nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

          Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

          Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

          Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

          But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

          Pure fear has always been your driver. The economy is secondary

          Ok. You might be right but it’s the first time anyone in my life has said that to me or about me.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            The economy isn't in nearly as bad a state as I'd feared back in March 2020.

            I remember Loki was pretty anti-lockdown back in the day - which is an economy-guided opinion.

            I was only joking

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              @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

              @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

              @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

              nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

              Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

              Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

              Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

              But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

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              Horace
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              #20

              @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

              @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

              @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

              @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

              nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

              Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

              Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

              Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

              But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

              If you want to argue against anti-vax conservatives, why don't you seek some out online and go argue with them? What's in it for you to whine to a bunch of people who don't fit that description but who you want to attack in effigy? What is wrong with you?

              Education is extremely important.

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                @lufins-dad said in Welcome, Delta?:

                @loki What’s fringe about pointing out the numbers?

                Why not just share the point of view you are coming from? My perception is that you want the vaccine hesitant to be right somehow. If I am wrong about that I apologize, it’s just a guess.

                If it is your point of view, i can tell you that less and less people are listening.

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                @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                @lufins-dad said in Welcome, Delta?:

                @loki What’s fringe about pointing out the numbers?

                Why not just share the point of view you are coming from? My perception is that you want the vaccine hesitant to be right somehow. If I am wrong about that I apologize, it’s just a guess.

                If it is your point of view, i can tell you that less and less people are listening.

                Why would I hope there is a problem with the vaccine? Ir tht it's less effective than hoped? It's my health on the line...

                Stop trying to belittle the hesitant. Fringe? Less and less people listening? I wouldn't call 38% of adults a small "fringe" group. Beyond that 38% you also have a very large number of people that got the vaccine but were and are still hesitant. Right now we have 53% of the population fully vaccinated. What do you think that number looks like in November when most of the original vaccinations are waning and people are needing boosters. Most people will go in for their boosters, yes, but everybody? I very much doubt that. I would not be surprised if our "fully vaccinated" numbers aren't down 5%-10%. You're saying this is over, this is never going to be over. Which makes it important for honest and open reporting.

                The Brad

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                • L Loki

                  @jolly said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

                  Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

                  Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

                  Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

                  But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

                  Pure fear has always been your driver. The economy is secondary

                  Ok. You might be right but it’s the first time anyone in my life has said that to me or about me.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #22

                  @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  @jolly said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                  nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

                  Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

                  Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

                  Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

                  But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

                  Pure fear has always been your driver. The economy is secondary

                  Ok. You might be right but it’s the first time anyone in my life has said that to me or about me.

                  Then don't act like you're scared to death. Fact is, it's highly likely we'll all have COVID before it's over.

                  The economy has been functioning down here, even during the highest rate of COVID infection in the world. Mask or no mask, people have accepted it and moved on.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @jolly said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

                    Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

                    Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

                    Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

                    But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

                    Pure fear has always been your driver. The economy is secondary

                    Ok. You might be right but it’s the first time anyone in my life has said that to me or about me.

                    Then don't act like you're scared to death. Fact is, it's highly likely we'll all have COVID before it's over.

                    The economy has been functioning down here, even during the highest rate of COVID infection in the world. Mask or no mask, people have accepted it and moved on.

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                    Loki
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                    #23

                    @jolly said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @jolly said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                    nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

                    Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

                    Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

                    Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

                    But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

                    Pure fear has always been your driver. The economy is secondary

                    Ok. You might be right but it’s the first time anyone in my life has said that to me or about me.

                    Then don't act like you're scared to death. Fact is, it's highly likely we'll all have COVID before it's over.

                    The economy has been functioning down here, even during the highest rate of COVID infection in the world. Mask or no mask, people have accepted it and moved on.

                    Actually I never feared for myself either for Covid or my financial standing. I did fear for my kids.

                    I was totally wrong about the impact on our economy and that is something I have been thinking about.

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                    • L Loki

                      @jolly said in Welcome, Delta?:

                      @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                      @jolly said in Welcome, Delta?:

                      @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                      @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Welcome, Delta?:

                      @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                      nobody is listening to fringe stuff anymore.

                      Seriously? I think plenty of people are listening. You couldn't be more pro-vaccination than I am, but I think there are plenty of people who are anything but.

                      Loki is feeling less paranoia for whatever reason (probably just a natural waning as he grows accustomed to the new threat in the environment), and explains it with the hand-waved notion that there really is less anti-vax opinion out there.

                      Well you are right that I am less paranoid about the economy which was always the driver of my thoughts from day 1.

                      But also I wondered if people on either side would move off their partisan positions. And the answer is no. It’s just frustrating that conservatives having chosen to put their money on the losing side of this. Imagine being an investor and betting on ivermectin vs vaccine for example. hopefully folks don’t invest they way they think about politics.

                      Pure fear has always been your driver. The economy is secondary

                      Ok. You might be right but it’s the first time anyone in my life has said that to me or about me.

                      Then don't act like you're scared to death. Fact is, it's highly likely we'll all have COVID before it's over.

                      The economy has been functioning down here, even during the highest rate of COVID infection in the world. Mask or no mask, people have accepted it and moved on.

                      Actually I never feared for myself either for Covid or my financial standing. I did fear for my kids.

                      I was totally wrong about the impact on our economy and that is something I have been thinking about.

                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #24

                      @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                      I was totally wrong about the impact on our economy and that is something I have been thinking about.

                      We should ring a big freaking bell when anybody on TNCR admits they were wrong about something.

                      I was only joking

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                        Horace
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                        #25

                        Loki what specifically were you wrong about regarding the economic impact?

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          Loki what specifically were you wrong about regarding the economic impact?

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                          Loki
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                          @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                          Loki what specifically were you wrong about regarding the economic impact?

                          The safety net that would be effective in blunting impact on people’s lives. Also some corporations actually outperforming.

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                          • L Loki

                            @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                            Loki what specifically were you wrong about regarding the economic impact?

                            The safety net that would be effective in blunting impact on people’s lives. Also some corporations actually outperforming.

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                            Horace
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                            @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                            @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                            Loki what specifically were you wrong about regarding the economic impact?

                            The safety net that would be effective in blunting impact on people’s lives.

                            I hope you're devoting some of your thinking to the social ideas being reinforced by the magic money safety net. The future impacts of that magic money.

                            Also some corporations actually outperforming.

                            Right, tech has. Probably a good investment.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                              @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                              Loki what specifically were you wrong about regarding the economic impact?

                              The safety net that would be effective in blunting impact on people’s lives.

                              I hope you're devoting some of your thinking to the social ideas being reinforced by the magic money safety net. The future impacts of that magic money.

                              Also some corporations actually outperforming.

                              Right, tech has. Probably a good investment.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #28

                              @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                              @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                              @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                              Loki what specifically were you wrong about regarding the economic impact?

                              The safety net that would be effective in blunting impact on people’s lives.

                              I hope you're devoting some of your thinking to the social ideas being reinforced by the magic money safety net. The future impacts of that magic money.

                              Also some corporations actually outperforming.

                              Right, tech has. Probably a good investment.

                              Yeah the magic safety net infused with socialist ideas. Real issue and I do think about it a lot. Why people won’t work is a key. So far people are in two camps at the national level but we will have to wait for the states to try to remove the safety net and see who is right. I can’t imagine a life with working personally, sounds miserable.

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                              • L Loki

                                @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                                @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                                @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                                Loki what specifically were you wrong about regarding the economic impact?

                                The safety net that would be effective in blunting impact on people’s lives.

                                I hope you're devoting some of your thinking to the social ideas being reinforced by the magic money safety net. The future impacts of that magic money.

                                Also some corporations actually outperforming.

                                Right, tech has. Probably a good investment.

                                Yeah the magic safety net infused with socialist ideas. Real issue and I do think about it a lot. Why people won’t work is a key. So far people are in two camps at the national level but we will have to wait for the states to try to remove the safety net and see who is right. I can’t imagine a life with working personally, sounds miserable.

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                                Horace
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                                @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                                @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                                @loki said in Welcome, Delta?:

                                @horace said in Welcome, Delta?:

                                Loki what specifically were you wrong about regarding the economic impact?

                                The safety net that would be effective in blunting impact on people’s lives.

                                I hope you're devoting some of your thinking to the social ideas being reinforced by the magic money safety net. The future impacts of that magic money.

                                Also some corporations actually outperforming.

                                Right, tech has. Probably a good investment.

                                Yeah the magic safety net infused with socialist ideas. Real issue and I do think about it a lot. Why people won’t work is a key. So far people are in two camps at the national level but we will have to wait for the states to try to remove the safety net and see who is right. I can’t imagine a life without working personally, sounds miserable.

                                fify

                                Education is extremely important.

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