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  • Catseye3C Catseye3

    "Battling power relations and their discriminatory effects must be the central focus of all human endeavor, be it intellectual, moral, civic or artistic."

    Yeah, good luck with that.

    You know what would be interesting? Have a group of some 12-15 people, blacks and whites, congregate in a comfy space, maybe have some snacks, and toss out these precepts he lists early on, and see what kind of discussion develops. The people should possess some degree of exploratory intellect and a spirit of willingness.

    Probably everybody would learn something.

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    @catseye3 said in The Neoracists:

    "Battling power relations and their discriminatory effects must be the central focus of all human endeavor, be it intellectual, moral, civic or artistic."

    Yeah, good luck with that.

    You know what would be interesting? Have a group of some 12-15 people, blacks and whites, congregate in a comfy space, maybe have some snacks, and toss out these precents he lists early on, and see what kind of discussion develops. The people should possess some degree of exploratory intellect.

    Probably everybody would learn something.

    You should've kept reading. He's not advocating for discussion. In fact he expressly explains why that would be pointless.

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @catseye3 said in The Neoracists:

      "Battling power relations and their discriminatory effects must be the central focus of all human endeavor, be it intellectual, moral, civic or artistic."

      Yeah, good luck with that.

      You know what would be interesting? Have a group of some 12-15 people, blacks and whites, congregate in a comfy space, maybe have some snacks, and toss out these precents he lists early on, and see what kind of discussion develops. The people should possess some degree of exploratory intellect.

      Probably everybody would learn something.

      You should've kept reading. He's not advocating for discussion. In fact he expressly explains why that would be pointless.

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      @aqua-letifer said in The Neoracists:

      You should've kept reading. He's not advocating for discussion. In fact he expressly explains why that would be pointless.

      That's his view. What I proposed is my own idea.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        @aqua-letifer said in The Neoracists:

        You should've kept reading. He's not advocating for discussion. In fact he expressly explains why that would be pointless.

        That's his view. What I proposed is my own idea.

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        @catseye3 said in The Neoracists:

        @aqua-letifer said in The Neoracists:

        You should've kept reading. He's not advocating for discussion. In fact he expressly explains why that would be pointless.

        That's his view. What I proposed is my own idea.

        Yours is very obviously never going to happen.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @catseye3 said in The Neoracists:

          @aqua-letifer said in The Neoracists:

          You should've kept reading. He's not advocating for discussion. In fact he expressly explains why that would be pointless.

          That's his view. What I proposed is my own idea.

          Yours is very obviously never going to happen.

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          @aqua-letifer said in The Neoracists:

          Yours is very obviously never going to happen.

          "First they ignore you
          then they laugh at you,
          then they fight you,
          then you win."

          -- Mahatma Gandhi

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            He also said, "Work hard, fuck hard." 🙂

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • MikM Mik

              h/t Chas

              https://www.persuasion.community/p/john-mcwhorter-the-neoracists-1bf?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMzMxOTk1MiwicG9zdF9pZCI6Mzk4NTQzMDAsIl8iOiJUc1FLbiIsImlhdCI6MTYzMDM0MTk1MywiZXhwIjoxNjMwMzQ1NTUzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjE1NzkiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.14B_5tscGvCWI-OMJIhepyZB9egRzOXwgDt1s-ths74

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              @mik said in The Neoracists:

              h/t Chas

              https://www.persuasion.community/p/john-mcwhorter-the-neoracists-1bf?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMzMxOTk1MiwicG9zdF9pZCI6Mzk4NTQzMDAsIl8iOiJUc1FLbiIsImlhdCI6MTYzMDM0MTk1MywiZXhwIjoxNjMwMzQ1NTUzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjE1NzkiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.14B_5tscGvCWI-OMJIhepyZB9egRzOXwgDt1s-ths74

              Good and insightful stuff from McWhorter. Not so far away from most of my cringeworthy white boy rantings about our cultural ideas about race.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                @aqua-letifer said in The Neoracists:

                Yours is very obviously never going to happen.

                "First they ignore you
                then they laugh at you,
                then they fight you,
                then you win."

                -- Mahatma Gandhi

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                @catseye3 said in The Neoracists:

                @aqua-letifer said in The Neoracists:

                Yours is very obviously never going to happen.

                "First they ignore you
                then they laugh at you,
                then they fight you,
                then you win."

                -- Mahatma Gandhi

                Sure.

                Let me know when it happens then. It'd be great.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  "First they ignore you
                  then they laugh at you,
                  then they fight you,
                  then you get kicked out of the pub"

                  -- John D'Oh

                  I was only joking

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @mik said in The Neoracists:

                    h/t Chas

                    https://www.persuasion.community/p/john-mcwhorter-the-neoracists-1bf?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMzMxOTk1MiwicG9zdF9pZCI6Mzk4NTQzMDAsIl8iOiJUc1FLbiIsImlhdCI6MTYzMDM0MTk1MywiZXhwIjoxNjMwMzQ1NTUzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjE1NzkiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.14B_5tscGvCWI-OMJIhepyZB9egRzOXwgDt1s-ths74

                    Good and insightful stuff from McWhorter. Not so far away from most of my cringeworthy white boy rantings about our cultural ideas about race.

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                    Horace
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                    @horace said in The Neoracists:

                    @mik said in The Neoracists:

                    h/t Chas

                    https://www.persuasion.community/p/john-mcwhorter-the-neoracists-1bf?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMzMxOTk1MiwicG9zdF9pZCI6Mzk4NTQzMDAsIl8iOiJUc1FLbiIsImlhdCI6MTYzMDM0MTk1MywiZXhwIjoxNjMwMzQ1NTUzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjE1NzkiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.14B_5tscGvCWI-OMJIhepyZB9egRzOXwgDt1s-ths74

                    Good and insightful stuff from McWhorter. Not so far away from most of my cringeworthy white boy rantings about our cultural ideas about race.

                    This presents an interesting case study and test for my EWPW&FM hypothesis. So far the FM contingent has responded to that thread as predicted. No word yet from the EWPW contingent. Those who adhere to neither category acknowledge that the essay makes sense, but that it's social suicide to say any of it out loud.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @horace said in The Neoracists:

                      @mik said in The Neoracists:

                      h/t Chas

                      https://www.persuasion.community/p/john-mcwhorter-the-neoracists-1bf?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMzMxOTk1MiwicG9zdF9pZCI6Mzk4NTQzMDAsIl8iOiJUc1FLbiIsImlhdCI6MTYzMDM0MTk1MywiZXhwIjoxNjMwMzQ1NTUzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjE1NzkiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.14B_5tscGvCWI-OMJIhepyZB9egRzOXwgDt1s-ths74

                      Good and insightful stuff from McWhorter. Not so far away from most of my cringeworthy white boy rantings about our cultural ideas about race.

                      This presents an interesting case study and test for my EWPW&FM hypothesis. So far the FM contingent has responded to that thread as predicted. No word yet from the EWPW contingent. Those who adhere to neither category acknowledge that the essay makes sense, but that it's social suicide to say any of it out loud.

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                      @horace said in The Neoracists:

                      EWPW&FM . . .

                      Remind me again what these stand for?

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        @horace said in The Neoracists:

                        EWPW&FM . . .

                        Remind me again what these stand for?

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                        Horace
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                        @catseye3 said in The Neoracists:

                        @horace said in The Neoracists:

                        EWPW&FM . . .

                        Remind me again what these stand for?

                        I can't. It's secret.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Mik
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                          FWSO*

                          (*For White Supremacists Only)

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            TLDR.

                            I was only joking

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