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Unvaccinated America in 5 charts

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    #29

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/alex-jones-attacks-trump-for-promoting-vaccines-maybe-trumps-actually-a-dumba/

    Alex Jones rebuked Trump for encouraging people to get vaccinated, saying Trump may be a dumbass.

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    • MikM Away
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      So I suppose the anti vaxxers aren’t Trump’s fault after all, eh?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        #31

        I wonder to what extent the Trumpist subset of the antivaxx crowd will start becoming distrustful of other vaccines. That’s a segment that in years past would have sent their kids through the typical vaccination schedule without a second thought, with the exception of Gardasil perhaps.

        But how much will the attitude about covid vaccines spill over?

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Dunno. Ask the Kennedys.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            #33

            Totally different subset. They were already antivaxers

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Then ask the black population.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I wonder to what extent the Trumpist subset of the antivaxx crowd will start becoming distrustful of other vaccines. That’s a segment that in years past would have sent their kids through the typical vaccination schedule without a second thought, with the exception of Gardasil perhaps.

                But how much will the attitude about covid vaccines spill over?

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                @jon-nyc said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                I wonder to what extent the Trumpist subset of the antivaxx crowd will start becoming distrustful of other vaccines.

                Do you think "Trumpist" is a better description than "Republican" for this subset?

                Education is extremely important.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Then ask the black population.

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                  @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                  Then ask the black population.

                  Again, different category. Their hesitance probably comes more from a general distrust of the medical system.

                  I doubt they'd have any particular insights to share on the Trumpists.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    #37

                    "What is going on now is both entirely predictable, but entirely preventable," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN's Jake Tapper Sunday, saying the outcome of the model is possible. "We know we have the wherewithal with vaccines to turn this around."

                    Somebody should tell Anthony what entirely means.

                    Words have meaning, just another reason not to trust this clown. He wants to create anti-vaxxers

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                      #38

                      'Blame Fauci'. It's like an episode of South Park.

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                        Then ask the black population.

                        Again, different category. Their hesitance probably comes more from a general distrust of the medical system.

                        I doubt they'd have any particular insights to share on the Trumpists.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                        @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                        Then ask the black population.

                        Again, different category. Their hesitance probably comes more from a general distrust of the medical system.

                        I doubt they'd have any particular insights to share on the Trumpists.

                        What's your insight into "Trumpists" and why they are more likely than average to not get vaccinated?

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #40

                          That’s not the question I’m asking. It’s whether their covid vaccine hesitancy will spill over into other vaccines.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            That’s not the question I’m asking. It’s whether their covid vaccine hesitancy will spill over into other vaccines.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                            That’s not the question I’m asking. It’s whether their covid vaccine hesitancy will spill over into other vaccines.

                            Oh, I'm sorry for diverting the discussion into something totally unrelated.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              That’s not the question I’m asking. It’s whether their covid vaccine hesitancy will spill over into other vaccines.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                              That’s not the question I’m asking. It’s whether their covid vaccine hesitancy will spill over into other vaccines.

                              About 66% of people over 60 in Louisiana have received at least one dose. IIRC, whites lead all minorities in percentage in that age group.

                              Now given that more than 70% of those folks voted for Trump, doesn't that kinda knock your argument into a cocked hat?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @jon-nyc said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                That’s not the question I’m asking. It’s whether their covid vaccine hesitancy will spill over into other vaccines.

                                About 66% of people over 60 in Louisiana have received at least one dose. IIRC, whites lead all minorities in percentage in that age group.

                                Now given that more than 70% of those folks voted for Trump, doesn't that kinda knock your argument into a cocked hat?

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                                @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                @jon-nyc said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                That’s not the question I’m asking. It’s whether their covid vaccine hesitancy will spill over into other vaccines.

                                About 66% of people over 60 in Louisiana have received at least one dose. IIRC, whites lead all minorities in percentage in that age group.

                                Now given that more than 70% of those folks voted for Trump, doesn't that kinda knock your argument into a cocked hat?

                                No. We're talking about the politics of the unvaccinated, not the politics of the vaccinated and over 60 in Louisiana.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Why is this about Trump? Trump fast tracked the vaccines, Trump took a vaccine, Trump promoted the vaccines and was booed for it roundly.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Why is this about Trump? Trump fast tracked the vaccines, Trump took a vaccine, Trump promoted the vaccines and was booed for it roundly.

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                                    @lufins-dad said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                    Why is this about Trump? Trump fast tracked the vaccines, Trump took a vaccine, Trump promoted the vaccines and was booed for it roundly.

                                    It's not about Donald Trump. It's about Trumpists and conservatives of a certain demographic generally. Also, quite obviously and as I predicted, this is very much about wagon-circling.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      No, sorry, but when it comes to the vaccines, you are a Trumpist. Jon is a Trumpist. Phibes is a Trumpist.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        Unless you are saying that people shouldn’t take the vaccines, and it’s not good?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                          That’s not the question I’m asking. It’s whether their covid vaccine hesitancy will spill over into other vaccines.

                                          About 66% of people over 60 in Louisiana have received at least one dose. IIRC, whites lead all minorities in percentage in that age group.

                                          Now given that more than 70% of those folks voted for Trump, doesn't that kinda knock your argument into a cocked hat?

                                          No. We're talking about the politics of the unvaccinated, not the politics of the vaccinated and over 60 in Louisiana.

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          @aqua-letifer said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                          @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                          That’s not the question I’m asking. It’s whether their covid vaccine hesitancy will spill over into other vaccines.

                                          About 66% of people over 60 in Louisiana have received at least one dose. IIRC, whites lead all minorities in percentage in that age group.

                                          Now given that more than 70% of those folks voted for Trump, doesn't that kinda knock your argument into a cocked hat?

                                          No. We're talking about the politics of the unvaccinated, not the politics of the vaccinated and over 60 in Louisiana.

                                          As I said, the demographic I pointed to, has the highest vaccination rate in the state. They voted for Trump in overwhelming numbers.

                                          Biden took 81% of the vote in Orleans Parish, which means he probably took close to 90% of the black vote in that parish. He also took East Baton Rouge and Caddo, and I bet he won a similar percentage of the black vote.

                                          Now since blacks have not been vaccinated at the same rate as whites, wouldn't the better question be why there is vaccine hesitancy among the Biden voters? Is is because of Biden's and Heels-up's hesitancy and criticism of the vaccine?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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