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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #6

    Brave New World was not so far off.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #7

      And inflation is 6%.

      Subtract that 6% from your profits for the year.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        And inflation is 6%.

        Subtract that 6% from your profits for the year.

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        George K
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        @jolly said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

        And inflation is 6%.

        Subtract that 6% from your profits for the year.

        It's been a crazy year, to be sure, but....

        Screen Shot 2021-08-27 at 1.27.42 PM copy.jpg

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Online
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

          Then it will go up again.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

            Then it will go up again.

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            George K
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            #10

            @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

            It feels like a crash is probably coming.

            We are overdue, to be sure.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #11

              inflation could absorb a slow, long term 'crash', without a significant drop in the indexes. Remember stock prices go up with the other prices.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

                Then it will go up again.

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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

                Then it will go up again.

                It doesn't always have to go up, you know.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
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                  #13

                  All these new workers coming across our southern border are going to invest their 401Ks somewhere.

                  This should mean new and improved stock prices.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                    It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

                    Then it will go up again.

                    It doesn't always have to go up, you know.

                    Doctor PhibesD Online
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #14

                    @jolly said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                    @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                    It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

                    Then it will go up again.

                    It doesn't always have to go up, you know.

                    I'm a firm believer in things generally continuing to behave as they have in the past. Both your comment, and the stockmarket, are currently following that prediction 😀

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @jolly said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                      @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                      It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

                      Then it will go up again.

                      It doesn't always have to go up, you know.

                      I'm a firm believer in things generally continuing to behave as they have in the past. Both your comment, and the stockmarket, are currently following that prediction 😀

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
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                      #15

                      @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                      @jolly said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                      @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                      It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

                      Then it will go up again.

                      It doesn't always have to go up, you know.

                      I'm a firm believer in things generally continuing to behave as they have in the past. Both your comment, and the stockmarket, are currently following that prediction 😀

                      Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.

                      Education is extremely important.

                      Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                        @jolly said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                        @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                        It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

                        Then it will go up again.

                        It doesn't always have to go up, you know.

                        I'm a firm believer in things generally continuing to behave as they have in the past. Both your comment, and the stockmarket, are currently following that prediction 😀

                        Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.

                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #16

                        @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                        @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                        @jolly said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                        @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                        It feels like a crash is probably coming. Lots of people will be surprised, and say it's the end times.

                        Then it will go up again.

                        It doesn't always have to go up, you know.

                        I'm a firm believer in things generally continuing to behave as they have in the past. Both your comment, and the stockmarket, are currently following that prediction 😀

                        Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.

                        Sure, I could win the lottery, but it doesn't seem very likely. Particularly as I never buy a ticket.

                        The ongoing rise of the market is as predictable as the predictions that 'this can't last forever, you know!'

                        I was only joking

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                        • bachophileB bachophile

                          I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                          I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                          That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

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                            @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                            I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                            That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            @loki said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                            @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                            I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                            That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                            On the other hand, it might be a fun and profitable way to spend one's thinking time.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @loki said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                              @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                              I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                              That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                              On the other hand, it might be a fun and profitable way to spend one's thinking time.

                              Doctor PhibesD Online
                              Doctor PhibesD Online
                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                              @loki said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                              @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                              I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                              That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                              On the other hand, it might be a fun and profitable way to spend one's thinking time.

                              The only person I know in real life who used to put more of his own money than he could afford into trading, ended up losing his life savings in 2008.

                              Somebody else I know pulled all his 401K out (and paid taxes on it), when Obama was elected, as he said that the market was never, ever going to recover. In the second stupidest move of his life, he then offered to lend the money to the guy who'd just lost his life savings - true story.

                              I was only joking

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
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                                #20

                                You cannot be serious. Did you ever pay him back?

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                  @loki said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                  @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                  I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                                  That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                                  On the other hand, it might be a fun and profitable way to spend one's thinking time.

                                  The only person I know in real life who used to put more of his own money than he could afford into trading, ended up losing his life savings in 2008.

                                  Somebody else I know pulled all his 401K out (and paid taxes on it), when Obama was elected, as he said that the market was never, ever going to recover. In the second stupidest move of his life, he then offered to lend the money to the guy who'd just lost his life savings - true story.

                                  HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
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                                  @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                  @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                  @loki said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                  @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                  I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                                  That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                                  On the other hand, it might be a fun and profitable way to spend one's thinking time.

                                  The only person I know in real life who used to put more of his own money than he could afford into trading, ended up losing his life savings in 2008.

                                  You probably have some particular idea of what it is to "trade". But there are degrees, from choosing which funds to allocate your 401k to, to choosing which funds to put your after-tax savings into, to trading individual stocks, to trading derivatives. I am sure you know lots of people who fit somewhere along that line.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    You cannot be serious. Did you ever pay him back?

                                    HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    @mik said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                    You cannot be serious. Did you ever pay him back?

                                    lol

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                      @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                      @loki said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                      @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                      I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                                      That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                                      On the other hand, it might be a fun and profitable way to spend one's thinking time.

                                      The only person I know in real life who used to put more of his own money than he could afford into trading, ended up losing his life savings in 2008.

                                      You probably have some particular idea of what it is to "trade". But there are degrees, from choosing which funds to allocate your 401k to, to choosing which funds to put your after-tax savings into, to trading individual stocks, to trading derivatives. I am sure you know lots of people who fit somewhere along that line.

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                                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #23

                                      @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                      @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                      @loki said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                      @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                      I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                                      That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                                      On the other hand, it might be a fun and profitable way to spend one's thinking time.

                                      The only person I know in real life who used to put more of his own money than he could afford into trading, ended up losing his life savings in 2008.

                                      You probably have some particular idea of what it is to "trade". But there are degrees, from choosing which funds to allocate your 401k to, to choosing which funds to put your after-tax savings into, to trading individual stocks, to trading derivatives. I am sure you know lots of people who fit somewhere along that line.

                                      Yeah, I thought it would be pretty obvious what I was talking about. Apparently not 😆

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        You cannot be serious. Did you ever pay him back?

                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #24

                                        @mik said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                        You cannot be serious. Did you ever pay him back?

                                        The pair of them got divorced a couple of years later, which probably didn't help their finances either.

                                        It was like watching the world's slowest car-accident.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          @loki said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                                          That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                                          On the other hand, it might be a fun and profitable way to spend one's thinking time.

                                          The only person I know in real life who used to put more of his own money than he could afford into trading, ended up losing his life savings in 2008.

                                          You probably have some particular idea of what it is to "trade". But there are degrees, from choosing which funds to allocate your 401k to, to choosing which funds to put your after-tax savings into, to trading individual stocks, to trading derivatives. I am sure you know lots of people who fit somewhere along that line.

                                          Yeah, I thought it would be pretty obvious what I was talking about. Apparently not 😆

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          @horace said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          @loki said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          @bachophile said in S&P Breaks 4,500:

                                          I know it’s not PC to talk about personal investments but I’ll tell all. The bulk of my personal $$$ is in S and P indexed funds. For the past maybe thirty years. Maybe more.Weathered every major drop. Even black Monday of 87. and I’m still way ahead.

                                          That me. Saves so much time not thinking about it, which is another major gift.

                                          On the other hand, it might be a fun and profitable way to spend one's thinking time.

                                          The only person I know in real life who used to put more of his own money than he could afford into trading, ended up losing his life savings in 2008.

                                          You probably have some particular idea of what it is to "trade". But there are degrees, from choosing which funds to allocate your 401k to, to choosing which funds to put your after-tax savings into, to trading individual stocks, to trading derivatives. I am sure you know lots of people who fit somewhere along that line.

                                          Yeah, I thought it would be pretty obvious what I was talking about. Apparently not 😆

                                          Lol! But you probably still have no idea what sort of trading he did.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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