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Baby on Nevermind cover sues Nirvana over child sexual exploitation

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/aug/25/baby-on-nevermind-cover-sues-nirvana-over-child-sexual-exploitation

    Spencer Elden, who appeared as a naked baby on one of rock music’s most iconic album covers – Nevermind by Nirvana – is suing the band, claiming he was sexually exploited as a child.

    In a lawsuit filed in a Californian district court against numerous parties, including the surviving members of the band, Kurt Cobain’s widow Courtney Love, and the record labels that released or distributed the album in the last three decades, Elden alleges the defendants produced child pornography with the image, which features him swimming naked towards a dollar bill with his genitalia visible.

    The lawsuit accuses the defendants of “commercial child sexual exploitation of him from while he was a minor to the present day … defendants knowingly produced, possessed and advertised commercial child pornography depicting Spencer”.

    Elden, who was four months old when the image was made, says he has suffered “lifelong damages” from the 1991 album cover, including “extreme and permanent emotional distress with physical manifestations”, plus loss of education, wages, and “enjoyment of life”.

    The lawsuit claims the image is “sexually graphic”, and says it makes Elden resemble “a sex worker – grabbing for a dollar bill”. It claims Elden was never paid for appearing on the cover, and that his parents never signed a release form for the image, which was shot specifically for the album cover. It has previously been reported that Elden was paid $250.

    Ann Althouse comments:

    "We are all former babies who didn't have a choice in all sorts of things — posed in all kinds of photographs — often naked. It dilutes the meaning of pornography to throw in all nudity. The great art museums are full of nudity, including the nudity of babies (notably Jesus)."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      FFS

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • L Offline
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        Loki
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        Reparations for the families of all dead people who were painted nude. No justice, no peace.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
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          Liberal puritans. What an age we live in.

          Hey liberals, when the conservatives in the room are more free-thinking, open-minded and progressive, you know you really screwed up somewhere.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            Liberal puritans. What an age we live in.

            Hey liberals, when the conservatives in the room are more free-thinking, open-minded and progressive, you know you really screwed up somewhere.

            HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            @aqua-letifer said in Baby on Nevermind cover sues Nirvana over child sexual exploitation:

            Liberal puritans. What an age we live in.

            Hey liberals, when the conservatives in the room are more free-thinking, open-minded and progressive, you know you really screwed up somewhere.

            Also better looking.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              Liberal puritans. What an age we live in.

              Hey liberals, when the conservatives in the room are more free-thinking, open-minded and progressive, you know you really screwed up somewhere.

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              Loki
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              @aqua-letifer said in Baby on Nevermind cover sues Nirvana over child sexual exploitation:

              Liberal puritans. What an age we live in.

              Hey liberals, when the conservatives in the room are more free-thinking, open-minded and progressive, you know you really screwed up somewhere.

              A great observation but isn’t this just a money making scheme that rides on the coattails of your argument? So it’s indirectly true?

              Aqua LetiferA Catseye3C 2 Replies Last reply
              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #7

                The American Dream is to get rich from a needless lawsuit. This guy's a patriot.

                I was only joking

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                • L Loki

                  @aqua-letifer said in Baby on Nevermind cover sues Nirvana over child sexual exploitation:

                  Liberal puritans. What an age we live in.

                  Hey liberals, when the conservatives in the room are more free-thinking, open-minded and progressive, you know you really screwed up somewhere.

                  A great observation but isn’t this just a money making scheme that rides on the coattails of your argument? So it’s indirectly true?

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @loki said in Baby on Nevermind cover sues Nirvana over child sexual exploitation:

                  A great observation but isn’t this just a money making scheme that rides on the coattails of your argument? So it’s indirectly true?

                  Well yeah, but it has a chance of working specifically because of the puritanical liberal thing.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    Loser-Pays.

                    The only way out of this lawsuit morass....

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Loser-Pays.

                      The only way out of this lawsuit morass....

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                      Loki
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                      @jolly said in Baby on Nevermind cover sues Nirvana over child sexual exploitation:

                      Loser-Pays.

                      The only way out of this lawsuit morass....

                      From your lips to the Court’s ears.

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                      • L Loki

                        @aqua-letifer said in Baby on Nevermind cover sues Nirvana over child sexual exploitation:

                        Liberal puritans. What an age we live in.

                        Hey liberals, when the conservatives in the room are more free-thinking, open-minded and progressive, you know you really screwed up somewhere.

                        A great observation but isn’t this just a money making scheme that rides on the coattails of your argument? So it’s indirectly true?

                        Catseye3C Offline
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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                        #11

                        @loki said in Baby on Nevermind cover sues Nirvana over child sexual exploitation:

                        Liberal puritans. What an age we live in.
                        Hey liberals, when the conservatives in the room are more free-thinking, open-minded and progressive, you know you really screwed up somewhere.

                        I'd rather see it as neither side remaining concretized 24/7 into the rigid ideological pigeonholes that they are so often forced into. Amazing but true: liberals can do conservative stuff! And conservatives can do liberal stuff! And they can be okay with it!!!!

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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