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[Aqua Letifer]

@doctor-phibes said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

I don't understand why the right seem to hate Fauci so much. There's been this 'Fire Fauci' routine going on since Trump's presidency. What's the real motivation?

My guess:

Anti-vax conspiracy theorists create a bad look for Trumpists + Fauci sucks = let's blame Fauci for the anti-vax stuff. We get to hate the person we already hate anyway and we get our tribe off the hook.

[Doctor Phibes]

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@doctor-phibes said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

I don't understand why the right seem to hate Fauci so much. There's been this 'Fire Fauci' routine going on since Trump's presidency. What's the real motivation?

My guess:

Anti-vax conspiracy theorists create a bad look for Trumpists + Fauci sucks = let's blame Fauci for the anti-vax stuff. We get to hate the person we already hate anyway and we get our tribe off the hook.

There's also the feeling that he made Trump look stupid at the Covid briefings, which is completely untrue.

[Catseye3]

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Anti-vax conspiracy theorists create a bad look for Trumpists + Fauci sucks = let's blame Fauci for the anti-vax stuff. We get to hate the person we already hate anyway and we get our tribe off the hook.

That, and also he annoyed Trump. Even without the rest, that was enough to earn him teh enmity.

[Aqua Letifer]

@catseye3 said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Anti-vax conspiracy theorists create a bad look for Trumpists + Fauci sucks = let's blame Fauci for the anti-vax stuff. We get to hate the person we already hate anyway and we get our tribe off the hook.

That, and also he annoyed Trump. Even without the rest, that was enough to earn him teh enmity.

That would plug into the "Fauci sucks" part of the equation.

[Jolly]

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@doctor-phibes said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

I don't understand why the right seem to hate Fauci so much. There's been this 'Fire Fauci' routine going on since Trump's presidency. What's the real motivation?

My guess:

Anti-vax conspiracy theorists create a bad look for Trumpists + Fauci sucks = let's blame Fauci for the anti-vax stuff. We get to hate the person we already hate anyway and we get our tribe off the hook.

Constantly changing information and goal posts have absolutely nothing to do with it ..

[Aqua Letifer]

@jolly said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Constantly changing information and goal posts have absolutely nothing to do with it ..

Because if it's one thing we should fully expect during a global pandemic kicked off by a new virus, it's for the science never to change!

[Doctor Phibes]

@jolly said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Constantly changing information and goal posts have absolutely nothing to do with it ..

Trump's message would change during the same speech. Sometimes during the same sentence. That never seemed to worry you.

[Aqua Letifer]

@doctor-phibes said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Trump's message would change during the same speech.

...annnnnnd that's how we got Fauci. His being a lying bastard or not isn't the point. He filled a communication gap that the entire country perceived from the administration, that's why so many started listening to him.

Ironically, it's a nearly identical environment that allowed Trump to be elected in the first place (the "he tells it like it is" horseshit), but conservatives refuse to see the similarities for some reason.

[George K]

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

it's for the science never to change!

Not only for a new virus.

There are dozens of examples of "the science being settled," and then, dare I say "unsettled."

Remember "eggs are bad for you" for example?

[Aqua Letifer]

@george-k said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

it's for the science never to change!

Not only for a new virus.

There are dozens of examples of "the science being settled," and then, dare I say "unsettled."

Remember "eggs are bad for you" for example?

1. Yep, I'm up to speed on your "The Science Is Settled" series.
2. Lewis Black has a great bit about the eggs thing.
3. I didn't walk it back to science generally because I've come to accept the fact that emerging science is not a concept Americans are capable of ingesting. I would refer you to basically every discussion on global warming ever.

[Larry]

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@jolly said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Constantly changing information and goal posts have absolutely nothing to do with it ..

Because if it's one thing we should fully expect during a global pandemic kicked off by a new virus, it's for the science never to change!

Except Fauci didn't change his pronouncements in keeping with the science at the time. He changed his pronouncements in keeping with his tv appearance schedule.

[Aqua Letifer]

@larry said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@jolly said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Constantly changing information and goal posts have absolutely nothing to do with it ..

Because if it's one thing we should fully expect during a global pandemic kicked off by a new virus, it's for the science never to change!

Except Fauci didn't change his pronouncements in keeping with the science at the time. He changed his pronouncements in keeping with his tv appearance schedule.

I think Fauci's mostly a mouthpiece, and I think that's probably how he views himself, too, but I don't think he's so Machiavellian that his position in the news cycle determines what he believes. Mostly because he would never get away with being that ridiculous.

[Loki]

People who don’t get vaccinated die in numbers so much greater than vaccinated that all conversations are ridiculous.

It’s dreadfully boring the excuses. Move on and stop listening to the bloggers and podcasters that are in fact endangering you and your loved ones lives.

Or be a skeptic, take matters into your own hands and accept the consequences one way or another.

[Aqua Letifer]

@loki said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

People who don’t get vaccinated die in numbers so much greater than vaccinated that all conversations are ridiculous.

It’s dreadfully boring the excuses. Move on and stop listening to the bloggers and podcasters that are in fact endangering you and your loved ones lives.

Science is adapting to the coronavirus a hell of a lot faster than society is adapting to social media. That's really the problem.

[Larry]

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@larry said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@jolly said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Constantly changing information and goal posts have absolutely nothing to do with it ..

Because if it's one thing we should fully expect during a global pandemic kicked off by a new virus, it's for the science never to change!

Except Fauci didn't change his pronouncements in keeping with the science at the time. He changed his pronouncements in keeping with his tv appearance schedule.

I think Fauci's mostly a mouthpiece, and I think that's probably how he views himself, too, but I don't think he's so Machiavellian that his position in the news cycle determines what he believes. Mostly because he would never get away with being that ridiculous.

Oh, he is. And he gets away with it because any time someone points out how ridiculous he is, someone else says.., "But Trump....."

[Loki]

Fauci is only relevant in the context of Fauci v Trump. Most people could give a flying fuck about that. I think it’s good to keep bringing up Fauci to deliver red meat to the most loyal basis but honestly no one else cares, at all. They just want people to get vaccinated or stay home.

[Renauda]

@aqua-letifer said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Science is adapting to the coronavirus a hell of a lot faster than society is adapting to social media. That's really the problem.

Nailed it in one.

That's a money quote.

[Jolly]

@loki said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Fauci is only relevant in the context of Fauci v Trump. Most people could give a flying fuck about that. I think it’s good to keep bringing up Fauci to deliver red meat to the most loyal basis but honestly no one else cares, at all. They just want people to get vaccinated or stay home.

Nah, that's mostly you. There's quite a few folks that would like to see the highest paid federal employee ride off into the sunset...

[Loki]

@jolly said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

@loki said in Brought to you by the maker of 15 Days to Flatten the Curve:

Fauci is only relevant in the context of Fauci v Trump. Most people could give a flying fuck about that. I think it’s good to keep bringing up Fauci to deliver red meat to the most loyal basis but honestly no one else cares, at all. They just want people to get vaccinated or stay home.

Nah, that's mostly you. There's quite a few folks that would like to see the highest paid federal employee ride off into the sunset...

Never ever going to happen. The only time I even hear about it is here.

[Jolly]

Yeah, but this is the only place you "go".