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Treatments Needed

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/hospitals/industry-voices-vaccines-are-pivotal-war-covid-19-but-better-treatments-for-acute-covid

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      A year ago we were talking about treatment.

      Now we're talking prevention (vaccines).

      Have we gotten any better at treatment? It appears not.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/hospitals/industry-voices-vaccines-are-pivotal-war-covid-19-but-better-treatments-for-acute-covid

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        @jolly said in Treatments Needed:

        https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/hospitals/industry-voices-vaccines-are-pivotal-war-covid-19-but-better-treatments-for-acute-covid

        It is so important for most of the world where vaccines are not so available. Some day it’s possible a variant that eludes our vaccines could arise so we need to keep our foot on the treatment pedal for that reason as well.

        But, An ounce of presentation though is worth a pound of cure. -Ben Franklin

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          jon-nyc
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          #4

          Saw this ad for a clinical trial on Facebook. Oral treatment from Pfizer

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          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
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            COME ON, PFIZER PILL! DO YOUR SHIT, PFIZER PILL!!!

            A handful of other companies are working on similar, too.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              COME ON, PFIZER PILL! DO YOUR SHIT, PFIZER PILL!!!

              A handful of other companies are working on similar, too.

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              @aqua-letifer said in Treatments Needed:

              COME ON, PFIZER PILL! DO YOUR SHIT, PFIZER PILL!!!

              A handful of other companies are working on similar, too.

              really!!

              I saw a Kaiser Family Foundation report today. In June and July the unvaccinated cost the US Health System 2.3 billion. That’s $20,000 per unvaccinated head. We are a very benevolent country in terms of benefits and we talk about stamping out food stamps. LOL.

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #7

                I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

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                  @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                  I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                  Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

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                    @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                    I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                    Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

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                    @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                    @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                    I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                    Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                    So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                      @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                      I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                      Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                      So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

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                      Loki
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                      @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                      @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                      @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                      I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                      Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                      So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                      So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

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                      • L Loki

                        @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                        @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                        @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                        I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                        Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                        So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                        So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

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                        @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                        @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                        @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                        @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                        I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                        Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                        So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                        So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

                        I think you misunderstand a whole hell of a lot. “Let’s blow it” are you bitching about money spent on hospitalizations of smokers? Accident victims that weren’t wearing their seatbelts? How about all the billions spent thanks to COPD because people are too fat?

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                          @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                          @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                          @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                          I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                          Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                          So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                          So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

                          I think you misunderstand a whole hell of a lot. “Let’s blow it” are you bitching about money spent on hospitalizations of smokers? Accident victims that weren’t wearing their seatbelts? How about all the billions spent thanks to COPD because people are too fat?

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                          Loki
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                          @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                          @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                          @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                          @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                          @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                          I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                          Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                          So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                          So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

                          I think you misunderstand a whole hell of a lot. “Let’s blow it” are you bitching about money spent on hospitalizations of smokers? Accident victims that weren’t wearing their seatbelts? How about all the billions spent thanks to COPD because people are too fat?

                          There is a vaccine. It costs nothing. You say in the name of liberty a person has a right to 20k hospitalization cost. Ok. How does that square with your GOP proclivities of not wanting higher taxes to fund that incremental expense or do you just want to add to our debt. It’s a simple math exercise. New expenses, how do they get paid? You say the money is already there, but it isn’t it’s EXTRA expense.

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                            It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

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                              It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

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                              Loki
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                              @copper said in Treatments Needed:

                              It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

                              So funny. You sound like a democrat.

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                                Loki
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                                Study shows unvaccinated people 29 times more likely to be hospitalized.

                                https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-study-shows-unvaccinated-people-are-29-times-more-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.html

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  HOLY SHIT! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

                                  The Brad

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    @copper said in Treatments Needed:

                                    It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

                                    Actuaries. Some of the smartest people on the planet.

                                    Not always good at parties...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      HOLY SHIT! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

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                                      @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                                      HOLY SHIT! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

                                      Critical nursing shortages around the country. Very pronounced in Texas and Florida.

                                      Many reasons but treating avoidable deaths and serious issues has lead to serious burnout.

                                      https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/nursing/state-of-the-nursing-shortage-7-notes.html

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        Well holy crap! Let’s offer free tickets to a Garth Brooks concert and hide vaccine needles in the seats! That should take care of the problem.

                                        The Brad

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                                          Beancounters. And the government.

                                          That's the problem with the current nursing (and it's actually ICU nurses, for the most part) shortage.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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