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    George K
    wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 13:08 last edited by
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    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/unvaccinated-america-in-5-charts/

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 13:12 last edited by
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      They told me when I walked into work this morning, our floor guy died. Black, 38, non-vaccinated. Full start to full stop, five days.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Horace
        wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 13:17 last edited by
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        The Republican brand has seen better days.

        Education is extremely important.

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          bachophile
          wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 14:06 last edited by
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          When the republicans are following MTG types, then that’s what happens.

          I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

          Imperative to keep vaccines a non partisan issue but it seems nothing can be non partisan.

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          • B bachophile
            14 Aug 2021, 14:06

            When the republicans are following MTG types, then that’s what happens.

            I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

            Imperative to keep vaccines a non partisan issue but it seems nothing can be non partisan.

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            Horace
            wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 14:17 last edited by
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            @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

            I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

            Are there people who loved vaccines under Trump and now hate them? Or is that a caricature of "what Republicans think"?

            Education is extremely important.

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              Mik
              wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 14:28 last edited by
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              I have to admit that most folks I see that refuse the vaccine are Trump-siders, and I just cannot understand it. He moved heaven and earth to get this done.

              Most of the traditional Republicans, myself included, could not get it fast enough.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • B bachophile
                14 Aug 2021, 14:06

                When the republicans are following MTG types, then that’s what happens.

                I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

                Imperative to keep vaccines a non partisan issue but it seems nothing can be non partisan.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 14:31 last edited by
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                @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                When the republicans are following MTG types, then that’s what happens.

                I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

                Imperative to keep vaccines a non partisan issue but it seems nothing can be non partisan.

                The problem is the wrong vaccines won. It’s stupid, but it really is a marketing problem. mRNA sounds scary, and we’ve been inundated with Hollywood movies about the dangers of genetic research…

                Wait till the monkeys they tested with AZ start talking…

                The Brad

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                • M Mik
                  14 Aug 2021, 14:28

                  I have to admit that most folks I see that refuse the vaccine are Trump-siders, and I just cannot understand it. He moved heaven and earth to get this done.

                  Most of the traditional Republicans, myself included, could not get it fast enough.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 14:32 last edited by
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                  @mik said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                  I have to admit that most folks I see that refuse the vaccine are Trump-siders, and I just cannot understand it. He moved heaven and earth to get this done.

                  Most of the traditional Republicans, myself included, could not get it fast enough.

                  Here's what I don't understand...Trump has said repeatedly, "Get vaccinated". Before and after leaving office.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 14:37 last edited by
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                    I know that and you know that, but a lot seem to have forgotten.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      14 Aug 2021, 14:37

                      I know that and you know that, but a lot seem to have forgotten.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 15:00 last edited by
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                      @mik said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                      I know that and you know that, but a lot seem to have forgotten.

                      Or they aren’t monolithic? Just a thought…

                      The Brad

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                        14 Aug 2021, 14:17

                        @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                        I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

                        Are there people who loved vaccines under Trump and now hate them? Or is that a caricature of "what Republicans think"?

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                        bachophile
                        wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 15:38 last edited by
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                        @horace said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                        @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                        I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

                        Are there people who loved vaccines under Trump and now hate them? Or is that a caricature of "what Republicans think"?

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                        • M Mik
                          14 Aug 2021, 14:37

                          I know that and you know that, but a lot seem to have forgotten.

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 15:44 last edited by
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                          @mik said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                          I know that and you know that, but a lot seem to have forgotten.

                          Because Trump don’t say it often enough or clear enough. Go ahead, count them, how many times Trump publicly says to get the vaccines? If Trump publicly says to get the vaccine even only a tenth as frequently as Trump publicly talks about voting fraud, you think any would forget? Even the likes of Rep. Greene and Rep. Gosar won’t be so evasive about their vaccination status if Trump were vocal enough with embracing vaccination. As it is, it is pretty clear that Trump failed to persuade his own supporters to get vaccinated.

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                            14 Aug 2021, 14:32

                            @mik said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                            I have to admit that most folks I see that refuse the vaccine are Trump-siders, and I just cannot understand it. He moved heaven and earth to get this done.

                            Most of the traditional Republicans, myself included, could not get it fast enough.

                            Here's what I don't understand...Trump has said repeatedly, "Get vaccinated". Before and after leaving office.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 15:53 last edited by
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                            @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                            @mik said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                            I have to admit that most folks I see that refuse the vaccine are Trump-siders, and I just cannot understand it. He moved heaven and earth to get this done.

                            Most of the traditional Republicans, myself included, could not get it fast enough.

                            Here's what I don't understand...Trump has said repeatedly, "Get vaccinated". Before and after leaving office.

                            I think I've been pretty clear on my opinions of Trump's fuckfacery, but I gotta give it to him for Warp Speed. Not his messaging—was wrong for how people saw him, and, clearly it didn't work with his base—but yeah, Warp Speed put a dent in the pandemic.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              14 Aug 2021, 15:38

                              @horace said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                              @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                              I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

                              Are there people who loved vaccines under Trump and now hate them? Or is that a caricature of "what Republicans think"?

                              e6734670-ceeb-4dab-b5b2-c378c1296404-image.png

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 16:05 last edited by
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                              @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                              @horace said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                              @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                              I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

                              Are there people who loved vaccines under Trump and now hate them? Or is that a caricature of "what Republicans think"?

                              e6734670-ceeb-4dab-b5b2-c378c1296404-image.png

                              MTG, some caricature of what Republicans think. Yeah she is not good for the brand.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 16:33 last edited by
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                                Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

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                                • L Loki
                                  14 Aug 2021, 16:33

                                  Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 16:55 last edited by
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                                  @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                  Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

                                  Still losing, though, because there aren't enough converts.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • L Loki
                                    14 Aug 2021, 16:33

                                    Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 17:02 last edited by
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                                    @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                    Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

                                    It would be strange to consider vaccinated people to be self righteous in general.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 17:08 last edited by
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                                      Are masks macho or not macho?

                                      Are vaccines macho or not macho?

                                      If you hesitate answering this, you don’t get it.

                                      This doesn’t explain all pro-freedom, pro-natural-immunity, but I think it covers a lot of it.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 17:10 last edited by
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                                        Rock Hudson was macho.

                                        Look how that turned out.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • A Aqua Letifer
                                          14 Aug 2021, 16:55

                                          @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                          Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

                                          Still losing, though, because there aren't enough converts.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 17:13 last edited by
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                                          @aqua-letifer said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                          @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                                          Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

                                          Still losing, though, because there aren't enough converts.

                                          Like hell we are. It may change, because of the actual swarm of positive COVID results and the endless admits, but we are better than we were when this thing started. There are people leaving the hospital today, that wouldn't have several months ago.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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