Well, duh...
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What person with half of a brain, didn't see this one coming?
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/09/blame-the-bobos-creative-class/619492/
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Nice piece. Impressive willingness to reflect on the culture one is part of. He even used the word "we".
I suppose it will remain a mystery why Mr Brooks tried so hard to publicly establish his TDS. Was it an act of desperation to remain accepted in his career, through his nominal political side becoming toxic to it? Or did he really have the visceral dainty princess reaction against the gross orange reality TV star? I know both are real reasons that real people had, and I have little respect for either, but they are different.
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@horace said in Well, duh...:
Nice piece. Impressive willingness to reflect on the culture one is part of. He even used the word "we".
I suppose it will remain a mystery why Mr Brooks tried so hard to publicly establish his TDS. Was it an act of desperation to remain accepted in his career, through his nominal political side becoming toxic to it? Or did he really have the visceral dainty princess reaction against the gross orange reality TV star? I know both are real reasons that real people had, and I have little respect for either, but they are different.
I think growing up on the Philadelphia Main Line and going to the University of Chicago are clues. Many counties that were GOP run in the Philadelphia area are now Democrat as the GOP has changed.
I’m not sure Brooks changed as much as the party did.
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@loki said in Well, duh...:
@horace said in Well, duh...:
Nice piece. Impressive willingness to reflect on the culture one is part of. He even used the word "we".
I suppose it will remain a mystery why Mr Brooks tried so hard to publicly establish his TDS. Was it an act of desperation to remain accepted in his career, through his nominal political side becoming toxic to it? Or did he really have the visceral dainty princess reaction against the gross orange reality TV star? I know both are real reasons that real people had, and I have little respect for either, but they are different.
I think growing up on the Philadelphia Main Line and going to the University of Chicago are clues. Many counties that were GOP run in the Philadelphia area are now Democrat as the GOP has changed.
I’m not sure Brooks changed as much as the party did.
We don't need to wonder about what Brooks was reacting to during the Trump presidency. He was very clear that his reaction was to Trump. A reaction that happened to salvage some of his social acceptability in the culture he wrote about above. The Atlantic wouldn't be publishing Brooks pieces had he come out as a Trump supporter four years ago.
I like that he's writing about culture rather than politics per se. It gives him more freedom to criticize, without being labeled as a tribalist on the other side.
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@horace said in Well, duh...:
@loki said in Well, duh...:
@horace said in Well, duh...:
Nice piece. Impressive willingness to reflect on the culture one is part of. He even used the word "we".
I suppose it will remain a mystery why Mr Brooks tried so hard to publicly establish his TDS. Was it an act of desperation to remain accepted in his career, through his nominal political side becoming toxic to it? Or did he really have the visceral dainty princess reaction against the gross orange reality TV star? I know both are real reasons that real people had, and I have little respect for either, but they are different.
I think growing up on the Philadelphia Main Line and going to the University of Chicago are clues. Many counties that were GOP run in the Philadelphia area are now Democrat as the GOP has changed.
I’m not sure Brooks changed as much as the party did.
We don't need to wonder about what Brooks was reacting to during the Trump presidency. He was very clear that his reaction was to Trump. A reaction that happened to salvage some of his social acceptability in the culture he wrote about above. The Atlantic wouldn't be publishing Brooks pieces had he come out as a Trump supporter four years ago.
I like that he's writing about culture rather than politics per se. It gives him more freedom to criticize, without being labeled as a tribalist on the other side.
Question, do you see much difference between his Bobo’s in Paradise book written in 2000 and this piece today? It kind of feels like he’s saying I told you so. The new idea is that these formerly GOP types (230k GOP/110k dem) in Delaware county while becoming democrats (210kdem/150k GOP) are only acting to preserve their privilege.
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@loki said in Well, duh...:
@horace said in Well, duh...:
@loki said in Well, duh...:
@horace said in Well, duh...:
Nice piece. Impressive willingness to reflect on the culture one is part of. He even used the word "we".
I suppose it will remain a mystery why Mr Brooks tried so hard to publicly establish his TDS. Was it an act of desperation to remain accepted in his career, through his nominal political side becoming toxic to it? Or did he really have the visceral dainty princess reaction against the gross orange reality TV star? I know both are real reasons that real people had, and I have little respect for either, but they are different.
I think growing up on the Philadelphia Main Line and going to the University of Chicago are clues. Many counties that were GOP run in the Philadelphia area are now Democrat as the GOP has changed.
I’m not sure Brooks changed as much as the party did.
We don't need to wonder about what Brooks was reacting to during the Trump presidency. He was very clear that his reaction was to Trump. A reaction that happened to salvage some of his social acceptability in the culture he wrote about above. The Atlantic wouldn't be publishing Brooks pieces had he come out as a Trump supporter four years ago.
I like that he's writing about culture rather than politics per se. It gives him more freedom to criticize, without being labeled as a tribalist on the other side.
Question, do you see much difference between his Bobo’s in Paradise book written in 2000 and this piece today? It kind of feels like he’s saying I told you so. The new idea is that these formerly GOP types (230k GOP/110k dem) in Delaware county while becoming democrats (210kdem/150k GOP) are only acting to preserve their privilege.
I didn't read his book. But the notion that the mainstream cultural elite has gone from Republican to Democrat over the past several decades is obvious, and a point I have made here over and over. Not quite enough yet, though, since not everybody is convinced. I'll have to make the point more.
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@horace said in Well, duh...:
@loki said in Well, duh...:
@horace said in Well, duh...:
@loki said in Well, duh...:
@horace said in Well, duh...:
Nice piece. Impressive willingness to reflect on the culture one is part of. He even used the word "we".
I suppose it will remain a mystery why Mr Brooks tried so hard to publicly establish his TDS. Was it an act of desperation to remain accepted in his career, through his nominal political side becoming toxic to it? Or did he really have the visceral dainty princess reaction against the gross orange reality TV star? I know both are real reasons that real people had, and I have little respect for either, but they are different.
I think growing up on the Philadelphia Main Line and going to the University of Chicago are clues. Many counties that were GOP run in the Philadelphia area are now Democrat as the GOP has changed.
I’m not sure Brooks changed as much as the party did.
We don't need to wonder about what Brooks was reacting to during the Trump presidency. He was very clear that his reaction was to Trump. A reaction that happened to salvage some of his social acceptability in the culture he wrote about above. The Atlantic wouldn't be publishing Brooks pieces had he come out as a Trump supporter four years ago.
I like that he's writing about culture rather than politics per se. It gives him more freedom to criticize, without being labeled as a tribalist on the other side.
Question, do you see much difference between his Bobo’s in Paradise book written in 2000 and this piece today? It kind of feels like he’s saying I told you so. The new idea is that these formerly GOP types (230k GOP/110k dem) in Delaware county while becoming democrats (210kdem/150k GOP) are only acting to preserve their privilege.
I didn't read his book. But the notion that the mainstream cultural elite has gone from Republican to Democrat over the past several decades is obvious, and a point I have made here over and over. Not quite enough yet, though, since not everybody is convinced. I'll have to make the point more.
What is interesting about the Phila collar counties is while they went Biden they voted for the GOP such that the GOP controls the PA Senate and House. So you need to consider that.
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@loki said in Well, duh...:
@horace said in Well, duh...:
@loki said in Well, duh...:
@horace said in Well, duh...:
@loki said in Well, duh...:
@horace said in Well, duh...:
Nice piece. Impressive willingness to reflect on the culture one is part of. He even used the word "we".
I suppose it will remain a mystery why Mr Brooks tried so hard to publicly establish his TDS. Was it an act of desperation to remain accepted in his career, through his nominal political side becoming toxic to it? Or did he really have the visceral dainty princess reaction against the gross orange reality TV star? I know both are real reasons that real people had, and I have little respect for either, but they are different.
I think growing up on the Philadelphia Main Line and going to the University of Chicago are clues. Many counties that were GOP run in the Philadelphia area are now Democrat as the GOP has changed.
I’m not sure Brooks changed as much as the party did.
We don't need to wonder about what Brooks was reacting to during the Trump presidency. He was very clear that his reaction was to Trump. A reaction that happened to salvage some of his social acceptability in the culture he wrote about above. The Atlantic wouldn't be publishing Brooks pieces had he come out as a Trump supporter four years ago.
I like that he's writing about culture rather than politics per se. It gives him more freedom to criticize, without being labeled as a tribalist on the other side.
Question, do you see much difference between his Bobo’s in Paradise book written in 2000 and this piece today? It kind of feels like he’s saying I told you so. The new idea is that these formerly GOP types (230k GOP/110k dem) in Delaware county while becoming democrats (210kdem/150k GOP) are only acting to preserve their privilege.
I didn't read his book. But the notion that the mainstream cultural elite has gone from Republican to Democrat over the past several decades is obvious, and a point I have made here over and over. Not quite enough yet, though, since not everybody is convinced. I'll have to make the point more.
What is interesting about the Phila collar counties is while they went Biden they voted for the GOP such that the GOP controls the PA Senate and House. So you need to consider that.
Yes it seems to me that a lot of people didn't like Trump very much. So, consider that considered. If memory serves, David Brooks, for instance, likened a vote for Trump to a vote for the suicide of American civilization. And no, my paraphrasing is not hyperbole. Then again, Jan 6 vindicated those sorts of words, for many.
