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I'll bet a lot of people are getting nervous today

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #55

    Too many high profile folks for them not to know.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • brendaB Offline
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      brenda
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      #56

      Why was the FBI holding back while they had the incriminating evidence?

      I have a hunch.

      What a sordid mess, and it looks like the FBI was involved.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #57

        Maybe James likes 'em young? 😆

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • Doctor PhibesD Online
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #58

          They call them the ruling class for a reason.

          I was only joking

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #59

            The Passenger Lists

            Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs on his aircraft, including his 'Lolita Express' jet, have been subpoenaed, sparking fear among the rich and famous who partied with the pedophile.

            The Attorney General in the US Virgin Islands, where the billionaire had a home and is said to have carried out many of his horrific crimes, has demanded to see the logs which document the passengers on his aircraft.

            The logs on his four helicopters and three planes span from 1998 until his suicide in prison last year.

            Attorney General Denise George has filed a lawsuit against his estate alleging 22 accounts including human trafficking, aggravated rape, child abuse, neglect, forced labour and prostitution, The Mirror reported.

            Ms George is also requesting to see any 'complaints or reports of potentially suspicious conduct' as well as personal notes made by the pilots.

            The subpoena demands the names and details of anyone who worked for the pilots, interacted with Epstein and passengers who travelled with him.

            The Attorney General in the US Virgin Islands, where the billionaire had a home and is said to have carried out many of his horrific crimes, has demanded to see the logs

            Pilot David Rodgers has previously revealed logs from 2009 which showed Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and Naomi Campbell were among those who flew on his jet.

            It is not suggested they were aware of any wrongdoing by Epstein.

            A source said: 'The records that have been subpoenaed will make the ones Rodgers provided look like a Post-It note.

            'There is panic among many of the rich and famous.'

            Lawyers for the victims said the logs released in 2009 did not include the flights of chief pilot Larry Visoki who had flown Epstein for more than 25 years.

            It comes as a celebrity chef has been quizzed by detectives 20 years after he worked for Epstein - prompting renewed calls for Prince Andrew to speak to the FBI.

            Adam Perry Lang, 51, opened the Barbecoa restaurant with Jamie Oliver in London in 2010 - and worked for Jeffrey Epstein between 1999 and 2003.

            He is now 'fully cooperating' with the FBI investigation into allegations of sexual abuse by depraved billionaire Epstein, reported the Daily Mirror.

            Attorney Arick Fudali, representing the victims, heaped pressure on Prince Andrew - who has been accused of stonewalling detectives.

            Mr Fudali said: 'We certainly hope that this may inspire other witnesses to come forward and help shed some light on Epstein's dark scheme.'

            American Mr Perry Lang catered for the Duke of York, 60, and flew with him in a private jet on two occasions - once in February 1999 and in May 2000.

            Sources told the newspaper: 'Perry Lang holds information on what took place. They will get as much detail as possible that will shape any interview they may one day have with the duke.'

            Mr Perry Lang, who has been described as a decent man by victims, came forward after Virginia Giuffre, 37, wrote to ask him to be the 'hero'.

            His lawyer Lawrence Lustberg confirmed the chef was helping the FBI. Mr Perry Lang himself added: 'We have absolutely always been available to the attorneys representing the victims.'

            He previously denied being aware of any 'depraved behaviour' during his four-year term as Epstein's chef.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              Epstein accuser sues Prince Andrew

              “I am holding Prince Andrew accountable for what he did to me,” Virginia Giuffre said.

              “I am holding Prince Andrew accountable for what he did to me,” she said. “The powerful and rich are not exempt from being held responsible for their actions. I hope that other victims will see that it is possible not to live in silence and fear, but to reclaim one’s life by speaking out and demanding justice.

              “I did not come to this decision lightly,” she added. “As a mother and a wife, my family comes first — and I know that this action will subject me to further attacks by Prince Andrew and his surrogates — but I knew if I did not pursue this action, I would be letting them and victims everywhere down.”

              In late 2019, Prince Andrew told BBC Newsnight that he never had sex with Giuffre, saying, “It didn’t happen.”

              He said he has “no recollection” of ever meeting her and told an interviewer there are “a number of things that are wrong” about Giuffre’s account, which alleges the encounter occurred in 2001.

              “I can absolutely categorically tell you it never happened,” Andrew said.

              According to the lawsuit, the prince abused Giuffre on multiple occasions when she was under the age of 18.

              It said that on one occasion, the prince sexually abused her in London at the home of Ghislaine Maxwell when Epstein, Maxwell and Prince Andrew forced her to have sexual intercourse with the prince against her will.

              On another occasion, Prince Andrew sexually abused the plaintiff in Epstein’s New York mansion, the lawsuit said.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #61

                I bet he's sweating. Or possibly not.

                I was only joking

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #62

                  So she gets essentially raped at Epstein’s London home then sticks with them and goes to New York?

                  Where were her parents? The story is questionable at very least.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    So she gets essentially raped at Epstein’s London home then sticks with them and goes to New York?

                    Where were her parents? The story is questionable at very least.

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                    @mik said in I'll bet a lot of people are getting nervous today:

                    So she gets essentially raped at Epstein’s London home then sticks with them and goes to New York?

                    Where were her parents? The story is questionable at very least.

                    Let the discovery process sort it out, I say.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      So she gets essentially raped at Epstein’s London home then sticks with them and goes to New York?

                      Where were her parents? The story is questionable at very least.

                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #64

                      @mik said in I'll bet a lot of people are getting nervous today:

                      The story is questionable at very least.

                      That's pretty much what I thought until I saw the Prince Andrew interview where he gave pretty much the worst defence I've ever seen.

                      I was only joking

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #65

                        https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/12/prince-andrew-allegations-met-chief-no-one-above-law-cressida-dick

                        Asked about the duke’s position, the Met police chief said: “No one is above the law.” She said the force was “open to working with authorities from overseas”, adding: “As a result of what’s going on, I’ve asked my team to have another look at the material.”

                        Andrew is named as the sole defendant in a civil suit filed at a New York federal court. Giuffre claims she was “lent out for sexual purposes” by Epstein – including when she was a minor under US law. The document frequently mentions Epstein and his former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell.

                        https://nypost.com/2021/08/12/prince-charles-says-andrews-epstein-scandal-is-unsolvable/

                        UK heir apparent Prince Charles believes sexual assault allegations against Prince Andrew are an “unsolvable problem” that will forever bar his brother from returning to public life, according to a report.

                        Andrew, 61, was booted from royal duties in November 2019 after his disastrous attempts to justify his friendship with late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and accused madam Ghislaine Maxwell.

                        But the ongoing scandal escalated this week when longtime accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre sued Andrew in Manhattan federal court, with UK police re-examining whether to launch their own full investigation.

                        Charles “loves his brother and has the ability to have sympathy for the slings and arrows that his brother endures,” a source close to the Prince of Wales told the Times of London.

                        “However, this will be unwelcome reputational damage to the institution,” the source insisted of the latest bombshells.

                        He has long ago concluded that it is probably an unsolvable problem,” the sources close to Charles said of the 72-year-old heir to the throne.

                        “This will probably further strengthen in the prince’s mind that a way back for the duke is demonstrably not possible, because the specter of this [accusation] raises its head with hideous regularity,” the source insisted.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          She's gonna name names.

                          Convicted sex-trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to protect the identity of eight johns who allegedly had sex with young women she and her billionaire pedophile pal Jeffrey Epstein procured for them.

                          A lawyer for Maxwell stated in a letter to federal Judge Loretta Preska this week that she would no longer object to the identities of the “John Does” in a 2015 civil lawsuit brought against Maxwell by Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre.

                          “After careful review of the detailed objections submitted by Non-Party Does 17, 53, 54, 55, 73, 93, and 151, counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell writes to inform the Court that she does not wish to further address those objections,” said the Jan. 12 letter, signed by Laura Menninger.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #67

                            🍿

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
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                              #68

                              The best thing to come out of this would be to knock the Trumps and Clintons out of 24.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • George KG George K

                                She's gonna name names.

                                Convicted sex-trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to protect the identity of eight johns who allegedly had sex with young women she and her billionaire pedophile pal Jeffrey Epstein procured for them.

                                A lawyer for Maxwell stated in a letter to federal Judge Loretta Preska this week that she would no longer object to the identities of the “John Does” in a 2015 civil lawsuit brought against Maxwell by Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre.

                                “After careful review of the detailed objections submitted by Non-Party Does 17, 53, 54, 55, 73, 93, and 151, counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell writes to inform the Court that she does not wish to further address those objections,” said the Jan. 12 letter, signed by Laura Menninger.

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                                Copper
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                                #69

                                @george-k said in I'll bet a lot of people are getting nervous today:

                                Does 17, 53, 54, 55, 73, 93, and 151

                                I don't want to give the whole name, until it is confirmed.

                                Bill C, Andrew W, Donald T, Oprah W, Hillary C, Hunter B, Joe N, Bill C (#2)

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  The best thing to come out of this would be to knock the Trumps and Clintons out of 24.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  @mik said in I'll bet a lot of people are getting nervous today:

                                  The best thing to come out of this would be to knock the Trumps and Clintons out of 24.

                                  The more I think about that, the more sense it makes.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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