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It's a "Washington Fudge."

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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @horace said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

    @aqua-letifer said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

    They want so bad to fight the liberal juggernaut boogeyman that they refuse to see the practicality of bias in today's media environment

    I don't understand this. What is it that they refuse to see?

    That they're biased not because Those Damn Liberals. They're biased because bias and hyperbole are how they win the attention game, which keeps the lights on. As does Fox. The primary motivator is business and not politics.

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    @aqua-letifer rather than complaining about the complaining about the media coverage, how about addressing the basic issue that he's angry complaining about - Biden's ignoring the Supreme Court mandate?

    That, to me, seems at least as bad as Ukraine an impeachable offense.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      @aqua-letifer rather than complaining about the complaining about the media coverage, how about addressing the basic issue that he's angry complaining about - Biden's ignoring the Supreme Court mandate?

      That, to me, seems at least as bad as Ukraine an impeachable offense.

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      @george-k said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

      @aqua-letifer rather than complaining about the complaining about the media coverage, how about addressing the basic issue that he's angry complaining about - Biden's ignoring the Supreme Court mandate?

      Because like bad airline food, I've heard the story before, there's precisely nothing new about this particular iteration of the story, I'm not interested in the story, and acting all surprised about MSM double standard number 12,000 is absurd.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @george-k said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

        @aqua-letifer rather than complaining about the complaining about the media coverage, how about addressing the basic issue that he's angry complaining about - Biden's ignoring the Supreme Court mandate?

        Because like bad airline food, I've heard the story before, there's precisely nothing new about this particular iteration of the story, I'm not interested in the story, and acting all surprised about MSM double standard number 12,000 is absurd.

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        @aqua-letifer said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

        precisely nothing new about this particular iteration of the story,

        Other than the President of the United States ignoring the Supreme Court, that is.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @george-k said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

          @aqua-letifer rather than complaining about the complaining about the media coverage, how about addressing the basic issue that he's angry complaining about - Biden's ignoring the Supreme Court mandate?

          Because like bad airline food, I've heard the story before, there's precisely nothing new about this particular iteration of the story, I'm not interested in the story, and acting all surprised about MSM double standard number 12,000 is absurd.

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          @aqua-letifer said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

          @george-k said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

          @aqua-letifer rather than complaining about the complaining about the media coverage, how about addressing the basic issue that he's angry complaining about - Biden's ignoring the Supreme Court mandate?

          Because like bad airline food, I've heard the story before, there's precisely nothing new about this particular iteration of the story, I'm not interested in the story, and acting all surprised about MSM double standard number 12,000 is absurd.

          I generally couch my reactions in the degree to which the double standards have infected the culture at large. It is, of course, a losing game to argue that only one side is ever hypocritical.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @jolly said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

            @aqua-letifer said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

            @jolly said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

            Then be fair. Call a spade a spade. If it exists, acknowledge it.

            😆 I don't know much about history. Don't know much biology. But I do know much more about this particular spade than you do. How many jobs have you quit over it? I'm up to 2.

            I've never been fired. I've only quit one job, and that's because I chased a millwright across a six-inch I-beam, swinging an 18-inch crescent wrench. I had just finished twisting off some one-inch bolts with it (no cheater pipe), so I guess he figured I could do exactly what I told him I could - which was to break every bone in his miserable body.

            I tend to take a direct approach.

            Try that shit with a 23-year-old woke intern and you'll have to lawyer up in addition to updating your resume.

            This is all a digression, anyway. The point is that there's no longer any point in acting surprised at or thinking you're clever by pointing out the hypocrisy in media. The only ones left that aren't aware of it are so woke that nothing you say is going to enlighten them.

            As for solutions, you can't even talk about that until all of the "get a load of this shit" is out of everybody's system, and conservatives have a terrible problem with motivated reasoning on this issue. They want so bad to fight the liberal juggernaut boogeyman that they refuse to see the practicality of bias in today's media environment. It's not nearly as fun an argument as "the damn Lamestream Media," but it's much closer to the truth.

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            @aqua-letifer said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

            @jolly said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

            @aqua-letifer said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

            @jolly said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

            Then be fair. Call a spade a spade. If it exists, acknowledge it.

            😆 I don't know much about history. Don't know much biology. But I do know much more about this particular spade than you do. How many jobs have you quit over it? I'm up to 2.

            I've never been fired. I've only quit one job, and that's because I chased a millwright across a six-inch I-beam, swinging an 18-inch crescent wrench. I had just finished twisting off some one-inch bolts with it (no cheater pipe), so I guess he figured I could do exactly what I told him I could - which was to break every bone in his miserable body.

            I tend to take a direct approach.

            Try that shit with a 23-year-old woke intern and you'll have to lawyer up in addition to updating your resume.

            This is all a digression, anyway. The point is that there's no longer any point in acting surprised at or thinking you're clever by pointing out the hypocrisy in media. The only ones left that aren't aware of it are so woke that nothing you say is going to enlighten them.

            As for solutions, you can't even talk about that until all of the "get a load of this shit" is out of everybody's system, and conservatives have a terrible problem with motivated reasoning on this issue. They want so bad to fight the liberal juggernaut boogeyman that they refuse to see the practicality of bias in today's media environment. It's not nearly as fun an argument as "the damn Lamestream Media," but it's much closer to the truth.

            1. Even woke interns know enough not to fuck with people that will bury them. Literally. At the point I was at, I would have cheerfully killed that MF. And he knew it. The only lawyering would have been the DA and the defense attorney.
            2. When all cats are grey, it's only one small step to let them all eat cake, ladee-da. The problem is that not all cats are grey, there are things worth getting pissed about and there are things that need to be halted. Full stop.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Washington Post:

              The CDC’s eviction moratorium is almost certainly illegal

              Americans behind on their rent payments may have cheered when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Tuesday a new eviction moratorium for most of the nation, this one set to last until October. With some 6 million people owing back rent, many of them victims of covid-19’s sudden economic damage, there is little doubt about the need for aid, particularly because people are about to be thrown out of their homes just as disease rates are climbing.

              But the CDC’s action was almost certainly illegal. Under pressure from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and progressive Democrats, President Biden and the CDC may have muted accusations that they failed to stick up for desperate renters. The administration also may succeed in giving many Americans a short reprieve from eviction. But perhaps not as long as advertised — because courts may strike it down before October — and at the expense of the rule of law.

              The CDC crafted its new moratorium after a previous eviction ban expired last week. The old policy covered the whole country and had been in place since September. But Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh warned in June that the CDC had “exceeded its existing statutory authority by issuing a nationwide eviction moratorium” and that it could not be renewed absent “clear and specific congressional authorization.” Justice Kavanaugh was the crucial fifth vote that stopped the court from immediately striking down the old eviction ban, giving states an extra few weeks to begin distributing some $47 billion in federal rental aid.

              The CDC on Tuesday tried to get around this ruling by issuing a new ban that covers only areas “experiencing substantial and high levels of community transmission.” This amounts to 80 percent of counties. Advocates argue that the rise of the delta variant may have changed the court’s thinking and that the new policy is more closely tailored to the worsening public health situation. They also argue that Justice Kavanaugh may uphold another temporary policy while federal rental aid money is still only trickling out.
              That is unlikely. The law the CDC relies on to justify its unilateral eviction ban authorizes the agency to impose measures such as “inspection, fumigation, disinfection, sanitation, pest extermination, and destruction of animals,” not to freeze the rental housing market month after month in nearly the entire country. Many landlords are themselves desperate, on the hook to keep up their properties, pay taxes and service loans whether their tenants pay their rent. Justice Kavanaugh in June clearly signaled willingness to disregard their plight — and the law’s limitations — for another few weeks, not months.

              It is not the Biden administration’s fault that states have been slow to get federal rental aid to needy Americans. But the administration’s only reasonable options were to push states to get their acts together and to request that Congress give the CDC the authority it needed to reimpose an eviction ban. Indeed, the onus remains on states and localities; they cannot count on the new moratorium, issued on shaky legal ground, to absolve them of responsibility to aid renters.

              And yeah, the Washington Post actually goes there:

              If the Trump administration had ignored a direct warning from the Supreme Court, Democrats would rightfully line up to condemn the president. Mr. Biden does not get a pass on the rule of law because his heart is in the right place.

              Nice cover about his "heart." He's a nice guy, dontcha know?

              Bullshit. Law is law. Biden, like Obama when he unilaterally altered the healthcare law, gives the middle finger to the rule of law.

              You don't like the law? Change it.

              You don't like the judges? Change them, and if you can't, consider the reasons you can't.

              Tell me again, you sanctimonious sons of bitches at the Washington Post, where democracy dies.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Amazing.

                "Even if it's illegal, we'll keep doing it until appeals are exhausted."

                SCOTUS said it's illegal.

                Tell me again about fascism and tyrants.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  He's only doing it because he cares...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Does Mr. Biden even offer an apology to the landlords?

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      Does Mr. Biden even offer an apology to the landlords?

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                      @copper said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

                      Does Mr. Biden even offer an apology to the landlords?

                      Something even better...

                      Link to video

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        Does Mr. Biden even offer an apology to the landlords?

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                        @copper said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

                        Does Mr. Biden even offer an apology to the landlords?

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/04/landlords-legal-challenge-biden-eviction-ban-502513

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          This is where I mention my theories about a culture consumed by righteousness, without regard for rules, or what, in more dispassionate times, would be considered common decency.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • George KG George K

                            Seen on Twitter: "So glad we got rid of the authoritarian dictator and replaced him with the guy who unconstitutionally took Americans’ property rights by proclamation."

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                            @george-k said:

                            The thing that annoys the hell out of me with regard to Biden is what a blowhard he is. Granted, one can have reasonable disagreements on public policy, the economy, national security, whatever....

                            But this guy loves nothing more than the sound of his own voice. One need only look at some of the hearings in Congress where he's participated. I recall one instance (can't remember the specific hearing...9/11 perhaps?), in which the questioner was allowed 10 minutes with the witness.

                            Biden spoke for 7 minutes before he asked his first question. Then, he complained that he didn't have enough time to "pursue his line of questioning."

                            This.

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                              @george-k said:

                              The thing that annoys the hell out of me with regard to Biden is what a blowhard he is. Granted, one can have reasonable disagreements on public policy, the economy, national security, whatever....

                              But this guy loves nothing more than the sound of his own voice. One need only look at some of the hearings in Congress where he's participated. I recall one instance (can't remember the specific hearing...9/11 perhaps?), in which the questioner was allowed 10 minutes with the witness.

                              Biden spoke for 7 minutes before he asked his first question. Then, he complained that he didn't have enough time to "pursue his line of questioning."

                              This.

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                              @klaus said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

                              @george-k said:

                              The thing that annoys the hell out of me with regard to Biden is what a blowhard he is. Granted, one can have reasonable disagreements on public policy, the economy, national security, whatever....

                              But this guy loves nothing more than the sound of his own voice. One need only look at some of the hearings in Congress where he's participated. I recall one instance (can't remember the specific hearing...9/11 perhaps?), in which the questioner was allowed 10 minutes with the witness.

                              Biden spoke for 7 minutes before he asked his first question. Then, he complained that he didn't have enough time to "pursue his line of questioning."

                              This.

                              I'm sorry guys, but in context to the guy who was just in there, this is about the funniest thing I ever heard.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @klaus said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

                                @george-k said:

                                The thing that annoys the hell out of me with regard to Biden is what a blowhard he is. Granted, one can have reasonable disagreements on public policy, the economy, national security, whatever....

                                But this guy loves nothing more than the sound of his own voice. One need only look at some of the hearings in Congress where he's participated. I recall one instance (can't remember the specific hearing...9/11 perhaps?), in which the questioner was allowed 10 minutes with the witness.

                                Biden spoke for 7 minutes before he asked his first question. Then, he complained that he didn't have enough time to "pursue his line of questioning."

                                This.

                                I'm sorry guys, but in context to the guy who was just in there, this is about the funniest thing I ever heard.

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                                @aqua-letifer said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

                                @klaus said in It's a "Washington Fudge.":

                                @george-k said:

                                The thing that annoys the hell out of me with regard to Biden is what a blowhard he is. Granted, one can have reasonable disagreements on public policy, the economy, national security, whatever....

                                But this guy loves nothing more than the sound of his own voice. One need only look at some of the hearings in Congress where he's participated. I recall one instance (can't remember the specific hearing...9/11 perhaps?), in which the questioner was allowed 10 minutes with the witness.

                                Biden spoke for 7 minutes before he asked his first question. Then, he complained that he didn't have enough time to "pursue his line of questioning."

                                This.

                                I'm sorry guys, but in context to the guy who was just in there, this is about the funniest thing I ever heard.

                                That’s what she said.

                                Education is extremely important.

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