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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

    @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

    @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

    We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

    Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

    Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

    Quit being so tribal.

    Yeah it's me. 😄

    As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

    In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

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    @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

    @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

    @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

    @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

    We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

    Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

    Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

    Quit being so tribal.

    Yeah it's me. 😄

    As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

    In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

    Just a few weeks ago, she was at an event with a small goat emblem on her uniform. GOAT. Greatest Of All Time. She's complained in interviews (good luck finding them, they're being scrubbed) that she was being judged differently, because she was so good.

    God Bless her, she is very good, but the very best rise to the occasion.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

      @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

      @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

      @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

      We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

      Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

      Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

      Quit being so tribal.

      Yeah it's me. 😄

      As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

      In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

      Just a few weeks ago, she was at an event with a small goat emblem on her uniform. GOAT. Greatest Of All Time. She's complained in interviews (good luck finding them, they're being scrubbed) that she was being judged differently, because she was so good.

      God Bless her, she is very good, but the very best rise to the occasion.

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      @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

      Just a few weeks ago, she was at an event with a small goat emblem on her uniform. GOAT. Greatest Of All Time. She's complained in interviews (good luck finding them, they're being scrubbed) that she was being judged differently, because she was so good.
      God Bless her, she is very good, but the very best rise to the occasion.

      Yeah, I don't think anyone is arguing that it would have been somehow worse if she felt able to continue to compete.

      Getting on her case though reminds me of the meme jon shared around.

      alt text

      I personally think it would have been better, had she felt able to continue. But I don't understand why it's so important to label her a hero, or a quitter.

      Please love yourself.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

        @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

        @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

        @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

        We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

        Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

        Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

        Quit being so tribal.

        Yeah it's me. 😄

        As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

        In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

        Just a few weeks ago, she was at an event with a small goat emblem on her uniform. GOAT. Greatest Of All Time. She's complained in interviews (good luck finding them, they're being scrubbed) that she was being judged differently, because she was so good.

        God Bless her, she is very good, but the very best rise to the occasion.

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        @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

        God Bless her, she is very good, but the very best rise to the occasion.

        There's no shortage of people who were the very best in any number of fields who also suffered from serious mental illness that stopped them, either temporarily or permanently. You're still assuming you know how bad it was for her. 'Rise to the occasion' is just another word for 'pull themselves together'. If somebody is actually ill, that might not work at all.

        Was Bobby Fischer one of the all time great chess players? Yes, he was. But his life and career was destroyed by mental illness. He's still in the top 3-4 of all time.

        I'm not saying that Simone Biles is mentally ill - I have absolutely no idea. Neither do any of us.

        I was only joking

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          Nothing beats a fail, but a try.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            I don’t think we (natinoally) will ever get consensus on Simone. It’s become too politicized and much of it by the left that wants to blame it on “toxic” this or toxic that which sounds suspiciously like CRT.

            Interestly those on this forum that are not comfortable with the she went awol theme are not on the “ CRT” bandwagon. And those who think a greatest of all time by definition can’t punt have a point too.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @catseye3 said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

              @aqua-letifer Welcome to TNCR, noobie! Just so you know, somebody else has been using your nick all this time. 😄

              I didn't mean TNCR, I meant Americans.

              If you're liberal, you have to view this as a courageous act from a true hero.

              If you're conservative, you have to view this as an act from a quitter who couldn't hack it.

              I'm tired of everything becoming a proxy discussion about politics with no one thinking for themselves. I don't want to discuss issues with someone's interpretation of what their echo chamber has concluded, I want to talk to an actual person.

              AxtremusA Away
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              Axtremus
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              @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

              I didn't mean TNCR, I meant Americans.

              If you're liberal, you have to view this as a courageous act from a true hero.

              If you're conservative, you have to view this as an act from a quitter who couldn't hack it.

              I'm tired of everything becoming a proxy discussion about politics with no one thinking for themselves. I don't want to discuss issues with someone's interpretation of what their echo chamber has concluded, I want to talk to an actual person.

              See, that's why my "greatness is overrated" post is so great, it does not lionize or berate the act itself, it does not label anyone a hero or a quitter, it does not proxy any political faction, it does not parrot any particular echo chamber. May be go read it a couple of more times, you might learn to appreciate its true greatness. 😄

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                I didn't mean TNCR, I meant Americans.

                If you're liberal, you have to view this as a courageous act from a true hero.

                If you're conservative, you have to view this as an act from a quitter who couldn't hack it.

                I'm tired of everything becoming a proxy discussion about politics with no one thinking for themselves. I don't want to discuss issues with someone's interpretation of what their echo chamber has concluded, I want to talk to an actual person.

                See, that's why my "greatness is overrated" post is so great, it does not lionize or berate the act itself, it does not label anyone a hero or a quitter, it does not proxy any political faction, it does not parrot any particular echo chamber. May be go read it a couple of more times, you might learn to appreciate its true greatness. 😄

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                @axtremus said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                See, that's why my "greatness is overrated" post is so great, May be go read it a couple of more times, you might learn to appreciate its true greatness.

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                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  The king is dead. Long live the king...

                  https://www.foxnews.com/sports/suni-lee-family-wild-olympic-daughter-win-gold

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    #81

                    It will give her a platform to educate Americans about Asian hate. With which she and all Asians are well acquainted.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Heh...

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        I can easily see somebody getting a case of the “yips” and in as dangerous a sport as gymnastics, needing to pull out. That being said, she was making multiple mistakes before this and was frankly doing poorly. This feels like somebody that realizes she wasn’t going to medal and decided to drop out.

                        I’m not saying that’s what it is, but it feels a little like it…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          I can easily see somebody getting a case of the “yips” and in as dangerous a sport as gymnastics, needing to pull out. That being said, she was making multiple mistakes before this and was frankly doing poorly. This feels like somebody that realizes she wasn’t going to medal and decided to drop out.

                          I’m not saying that’s what it is, but it feels a little like it…

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                          @lufins-dad said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                          I can easily see somebody getting a case of the “yips” and in as dangerous a sport as gymnastics, needing to pull out. That being said, she was making multiple mistakes before this and was frankly doing poorly. This feels like somebody that realizes she wasn’t going to medal and decided to drop out.

                          I’m not saying that’s what it is, but it feels a little like it…

                          And therefore would rather give the team every chance to shine, excel and win, right?

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            I can easily see somebody getting a case of the “yips” and in as dangerous a sport as gymnastics, needing to pull out. That being said, she was making multiple mistakes before this and was frankly doing poorly. This feels like somebody that realizes she wasn’t going to medal and decided to drop out.

                            I’m not saying that’s what it is, but it feels a little like it…

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                            @lufins-dad said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                            she was making multiple mistakes before this and was frankly doing poorly.

                            I wasn't aware of this.

                            Perhaps her choice to drop out from that competition was the right thing for the team.

                            That's the opposite of "taking one for the team," right?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @lufins-dad said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                              she was making multiple mistakes before this and was frankly doing poorly.

                              I wasn't aware of this.

                              Perhaps her choice to drop out from that competition was the right thing for the team.

                              That's the opposite of "taking one for the team," right?

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                              Jolly
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                              @george-k said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                              @lufins-dad said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                              she was making multiple mistakes before this and was frankly doing poorly.

                              I wasn't aware of this.

                              Perhaps her choice to drop out from that competition was the right thing for the team.

                              That's the opposite of "taking one for the team," right?

                              To drop out is not bad. To drop out when she did, begs multiple questions. As stated previously, the right thing to do would have been after qualifying.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @george-k said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                @lufins-dad said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                she was making multiple mistakes before this and was frankly doing poorly.

                                I wasn't aware of this.

                                Perhaps her choice to drop out from that competition was the right thing for the team.

                                That's the opposite of "taking one for the team," right?

                                To drop out is not bad. To drop out when she did, begs multiple questions. As stated previously, the right thing to do would have been after qualifying.

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                                @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                To drop out is not bad. To drop out when she did, begs multiple questions. As stated previously, the right thing to do would have been after qualifying.

                                To address LuFin's Dad's point and yours at the same time - when did her performance allegedly begin to decline?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                  To drop out is not bad. To drop out when she did, begs multiple questions. As stated previously, the right thing to do would have been after qualifying.

                                  To address LuFin's Dad's point and yours at the same time - when did her performance allegedly begin to decline?

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                                  @george-k said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                  @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                  To drop out is not bad. To drop out when she did, begs multiple questions. As stated previously, the right thing to do would have been after qualifying.

                                  To address LuFin's Dad's point and yours at the same time - when did her performance allegedly begin to decline?

                                  https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2021/05/22/simone-biles-wins-us-classic-gymnastics-results/

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Team USA was awesome in the Olympics. It was another shining moment.

                                    A very strong argument could be made for Simone knowing when to bail to allow that possibility.

                                     I don’t expect everyone or even most people to agree with that statement but it is valid as any other.
                                    
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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      I can easily see somebody getting a case of the “yips” and in as dangerous a sport as gymnastics, needing to pull out. That being said, she was making multiple mistakes before this and was frankly doing poorly. This feels like somebody that realizes she wasn’t going to medal and decided to drop out.

                                      I’m not saying that’s what it is, but it feels a little like it…

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                                      @lufins-dad said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                      This feels like somebody that realizes she wasn’t going to medal and decided to drop out.

                                      The Coach: Biles your performance ain't makin' it

                                      Biles: Sorry Coach

                                      The Coach: It's too late for sorry, it's time to quit or be fired

                                      Biles: I quit

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                                        Team USA was awesome in the Olympics. It was another shining moment.

                                        A very strong argument could be made for Simone knowing when to bail to allow that possibility.

                                         I don’t expect everyone or even most people to agree with that statement but it is valid as any other.
                                        
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                                        @loki said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                        Team USA was awesome in the Olympics. It was another shining moment.

                                        A very strong argument could be made for Simone knowing when to bail to allow that possibility.

                                         I don’t expect everyone or even most people to agree with that statement but it is valid as any other.
                                        

                                        Team USA took Silver when they were clearly and obviously the favorites going in. Two weeks ago, the question wasn’t whether they would take gold, it was who would battle it out for 2nd and 3rd. https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/olympics/ct-olympics-gymnastics-simone-biles-20210725-mzhh64rbp5fbxbfwv6xv5g4ffq-story.html This was a Mike Tyson losing to Buster Douglas moment.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @loki said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          Team USA was awesome in the Olympics. It was another shining moment.

                                          A very strong argument could be made for Simone knowing when to bail to allow that possibility.

                                           I don’t expect everyone or even most people to agree with that statement but it is valid as any other.
                                          

                                          Team USA took Silver when they were clearly and obviously the favorites going in. Two weeks ago, the question wasn’t whether they would take gold, it was who would battle it out for 2nd and 3rd. https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/olympics/ct-olympics-gymnastics-simone-biles-20210725-mzhh64rbp5fbxbfwv6xv5g4ffq-story.html This was a Mike Tyson losing to Buster Douglas moment.

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                                          @lufins-dad said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          @loki said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          Team USA was awesome in the Olympics. It was another shining moment.

                                          A very strong argument could be made for Simone knowing when to bail to allow that possibility.

                                           I don’t expect everyone or even most people to agree with that statement but it is valid as any other.
                                          

                                          Team USA took Silver when they were clearly and obviously the favorites going in. Two weeks ago, the question wasn’t whether they would take gold, it was who would battle it out for 2nd and 3rd. https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/olympics/ct-olympics-gymnastics-simone-biles-20210725-mzhh64rbp5fbxbfwv6xv5g4ffq-story.html This was a Mike Tyson losing to Buster Douglas moment.

                                          That’s the beauty in life, we can disagree. I am so happy for those women on the team and how well they did. It was awesome, especially yesterday. The Gold win was stunning.

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