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Covid vaccines and covid rates

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    xenon
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    I'm sure there's another thread where this slots into, but some news from my neck of the woods.

    In Washington state:

    between February and June, residents 12 and older who weren’t fully vaccinated made up about 97% of COVID-19 cases, 96% of hospitalizations and 94% of deaths in the state.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/more-than-94-of-recent-covid-19-cases-deaths-and-hospitalizations-in-washington-state-among-those-not-fully-vaccinated-report-says/

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      Did you see George’s thread on Gamma? It’s a real concern but it is caveated that the current vaccines still are 97% percent effective against severe Covid…but the fear is that could change.

      I am banking on the booster shot but I wonder if Gamma ends up closing everything again…not everything but fun stuff.

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        Did you see George’s thread on Gamma? It’s a real concern but it is caveated that the current vaccines still are 97% percent effective against severe Covid…but the fear is that could change.

        I am banking on the booster shot but I wonder if Gamma ends up closing everything again…not everything but fun stuff.

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        @loki said in Covid vaccines and covid rates:

        97% percent effective against severe Covid…but the fear is that could change.

        Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that each variant is less virulent than the one preceding it. Even in the unvaccinated, Delta < Alpha in deadliness.

        However, a more transmissible virus is worse for society, even if less virulent. When that virus' infections becomes a small number, hopefully its effects will become less significant.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          @loki said in Covid vaccines and covid rates:

          97% percent effective against severe Covid…but the fear is that could change.

          Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that each variant is less virulent than the one preceding it. Even in the unvaccinated, Delta < Alpha in deadliness.

          However, a more transmissible virus is worse for society, even if less virulent. When that virus' infections becomes a small number, hopefully its effects will become less significant.

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          @george-k said in Covid vaccines and covid rates:

          @loki said in Covid vaccines and covid rates:

          97% percent effective against severe Covid…but the fear is that could change.

          Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that each variant is less virulent than the one preceding it. Even in the unvaccinated, Delta < Alpha in deadliness.

          However, a more transmissible virus is worse for society, even if less virulent. When that virus' infections becomes a small number, hopefully its effects will become less significant.

          Thanks for the reminder. I have much travel in the near term and am wondering if I just need to assume I have good odds for a breakthrough infection and how does that make me feel? I also know many people that are now saying they don’t want to travel again and companies poised to put another kibosh on it.

          DC just imposted a mask mandate, wondering if that means indoor concerts and outdoor events are toast? Wonder how the kids will react if so?

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            @loki said in Covid vaccines and covid rates:

            97% percent effective against severe Covid…but the fear is that could change.

            Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that each variant is less virulent than the one preceding it. Even in the unvaccinated, Delta < Alpha in deadliness.

            However, a more transmissible virus is worse for society, even if less virulent. When that virus' infections becomes a small number, hopefully its effects will become less significant.

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            @george-k said in Covid vaccines and covid rates:

            Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that each variant is less virulent than the one preceding it.

            That's the way the biological "incentives" work... (virus's "want" to infect more hosts, but they die if their host dies).

            You get maximum virus replications with high virulence and lower lethality.

            But mutations are random.

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