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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
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    #9

    Okay, now you're just showing off. 🙂

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      Jolly
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      I like football.😊 And I don't know 1/3 as much as an awful lot of people know.

      It's the ultimate team sport. If eleven guys on offense do everything right, they score every play. If the eleven guys on defense do everything right, the other team never gains a yard.

      The game is full of nuance and instantaneous adjustments.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • Catseye3C Offline
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        Can someone explain what a "goal to go drill" consists of? They were doing this in yesterday's training camp.

        Google doesn't know.

        KTHXBAI.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Did they put the ball on the ten yard line? Or closer?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Did they put the ball on the ten yard line? Or closer?

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            Catseye3
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            #13

            @jolly The one reference I found in Google was dated several years ago (can't remember, maybe 2014) and they were at the ten yard line.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              Here's the reason I asked...In the Red Zone (20 yards and in) offenses change a little. As they get closer, things change a lot.

              When a team makes a first down on the ten yard line or closer, to their opponent's goal line, they cannot make another first down. They have four downs to make a touchdown or kick a fieldgoal, or turn the ball over on downs. So, the situation becomes not First & 10, but First & Goal.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Here's the reason I asked...In the Red Zone (20 yards and in) offenses change a little. As they get closer, things change a lot.

                When a team makes a first down on the ten yard line or closer, to their opponent's goal line, they cannot make another first down. They have four downs to make a touchdown or kick a fieldgoal, or turn the ball over on downs. So, the situation becomes not First & 10, but First & Goal.

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                @jolly Okay . . . so "goal to go" means the offense's only option is goal or turn over the ball, yes?

                So what does the drill consist of? Obviously to bull through to the end zone, but in a drill this means what? Setting up a scenario where your defense pretends to be the oppo's defense? So the drill is really to sharpen the offense at the ten? (Or closer.)

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  #16

                  First & Goal offense uses a lot of whams, power shifts and more straight ahead type running. Longer pass patterns are out, so short fades and slants are used a lot. You might see a running play go wide, but it's usually a quick pitch and not a reverse or flanker sweep.

                  Saints are famous for a play that uses a tackle reach to seal, a tight end on an isolation block and a short pitch to Kamara, who runs for the pylon. They also use a Jumbo Package when inside the five, where they bring in an extra offensive lineman, for power running. Inside the one, Brees was a master at the QB sneak, where he would take the snap, jump and reach the ball over the plane of the goal line. They seldom run any of these plays (with the exception of very short yardage situations) anywhere else on the field.

                  And while the offense is working on short yardage Goal to Go, the defense is too. Corners play tight. Lineman get lower. Gaps get narrower. Linebackers key on possible lead block and watch for slants and scrape routes. They know that the offense's options have narrowed and they key on the possible.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    First & Goal offense uses a lot of whams, power shifts and more straight ahead type running. Longer pass patterns are out, so short fades and slants are used a lot. You might see a running play go wide, but it's usually a quick pitch and not a reverse or flanker sweep.

                    Saints are famous for a play that uses a tackle reach to seal, a tight end on an isolation block and a short pitch to Kamara, who runs for the pylon. They also use a Jumbo Package when inside the five, where they bring in an extra offensive lineman, for power running. Inside the one, Brees was a master at the QB sneak, where he would take the snap, jump and reach the ball over the plane of the goal line. They seldom run any of these plays (with the exception of very short yardage situations) anywhere else on the field.

                    And while the offense is working on short yardage Goal to Go, the defense is too. Corners play tight. Lineman get lower. Gaps get narrower. Linebackers key on possible lead block and watch for slants and scrape routes. They know that the offense's options have narrowed and they key on the possible.

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                    @jolly K, thanks, Jolly. Appreciate your patient explanations. What I understood of them. 🙂

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      In related news, pity the poor Bucs. Their training camp must be a blast. As in, blast furnace.

                      Tampa Bay Times: "TAMPA — Monday was hot in Tampa Bay. So hot, that a thermometer at Tampa International Airport recorded a record-high temperature for any July 26 in the recorded history of the city.

                      The previous high for July 26 in Tampa happened in 1935, when it peaked at 95."

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        #19

                        And another thing! Watching Arians swanning around in his fancy cart with the sunshade because he's too fat to walk, kvetching at the players for not being enough conditioned, really chaps my you-know-what. It's a good thing they have Brady, who walks the walk, to look up to.

                        What is it with fat coaches, anyway? Him and Belichick. Should be Belly-chick. Hey, Belichick, check your belly! Har de har.

                        Grump.

                        Okay, I'll stop talking to myself now. Unless I think of some other deathless thing.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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