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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #18

    Well, Cats, that's a matter of perception. We may not agree on it. While I am very pro-mask if needed, I hope they don't have to come back. It can be taken to the point of the ridiculous.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      Which is worse, missing funerals, canceling weddings, losing your job, losing family members, or having to wear a mask while you collect your medal?

      We've lost our minds alright.

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      Jolly
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      #19

      @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

      Which is worse, missing funerals, canceling weddings, losing your job, losing family members, or having to wear a mask while you collect your medal?

      We've lost our minds alright.

      Empathetic bastard, aren't you?😄

      It's a closed room, no audience, everyone tested out the whazoo. And just a few minutes to hours before, that athlete was competing without a mask. You don't think they can take the damn thing off for 180 seconds for maybe the most important moment of their lives?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

        Which is worse, missing funerals, canceling weddings, losing your job, losing family members, or having to wear a mask while you collect your medal?

        We've lost our minds alright.

        Because we can’t discuss a particular application of a mask rule, without extrapolating to a blanket notion of whether COVID is bad for people and whether we should have empathy for that.

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #20

        @horace said in Crying Shame:

        @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

        Which is worse, missing funerals, canceling weddings, losing your job, losing family members, or having to wear a mask while you collect your medal?

        We've lost our minds alright.

        Because we can’t discuss a particular application of a mask rule, without extrapolating to a blanket notion of whether COVID is bad for people and whether we should have empathy for that.

        Having to wear a mask for a medal ceremony pales into insignificance next to a lot of the other things that have happened because of Covid.

        And last week many of us were saying how little we care about the olympics. What changed?

        Suddenly, there's something to talk about, and it isn't even the actual sport? It's masks. The never-ending saga of masks. This isn't about the olympics at all. It's about masks.

        I was only joking

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          There is only that one picture, that one piece of videotape. A crystallized one moment in time.

          You know that part of the ceremony where the minister or official says, "You may now kiss the bride" and the photographer snaps that picture? You can recreate it. You can do it over again. But it will never happen again.

          Ever.

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          wrote on last edited by Catseye3
          #21

          @jolly said in Crying Shame:

          There is only that one picture, that one piece of videotape. A crystallized one moment in time.

          For the viewers. Not for the athletes. For the athletes, it is one moment among thousands.

          Which moment will leave the greater impression on the athlete's own soul? Standing on the platform with the medal? Or the time she was running by herself, pushing, driving, dying, striving for that one more half minute, nobody around, just her and the dawn, and when she collapses, it's with the knowledge that she DID IT?

          I don't know, either.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @jolly said in Crying Shame:

            There is only that one picture, that one piece of videotape. A crystallized one moment in time.

            For the viewers. Not for the athletes. For the athletes, it is one moment among thousands.

            Which moment will leave the greater impression on the athlete's own soul? Standing on the platform with the medal? Or the time she was running by herself, pushing, driving, dying, striving for that one more half minute, nobody around, just her and the dawn, and when she collapses, it's with the knowledge that she DID IT?

            I don't know, either.

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            @catseye3 said in Crying Shame:

            @jolly said in Crying Shame:

            There is only that one picture, that one piece of videotape. A crystallized one moment in time.

            For the viewers. Not for the athletes. For the athletes, it is one moment among thousands.

            No, not at the Olympics. That's the pinnacle.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              @catseye3 said in Crying Shame:

              @jolly said in Crying Shame:

              There is only that one picture, that one piece of videotape. A crystallized one moment in time.

              For the viewers. Not for the athletes. For the athletes, it is one moment among thousands.

              No, not at the Olympics. That's the pinnacle.

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              Catseye3
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              #23

              @mik said in Crying Shame:

              That's the pinnacle.

              The pinnacle, not the only. Not the one.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

                Which is worse, missing funerals, canceling weddings, losing your job, losing family members, or having to wear a mask while you collect your medal?

                We've lost our minds alright.

                Empathetic bastard, aren't you?😄

                It's a closed room, no audience, everyone tested out the whazoo. And just a few minutes to hours before, that athlete was competing without a mask. You don't think they can take the damn thing off for 180 seconds for maybe the most important moment of their lives?

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #24

                @jolly said in Crying Shame:

                Empathetic bastard, aren't you?

                I admit that I've never been particularly good at knowing what others are thinking and feeling.

                I realise that puts me in the minority. In fact, I frequently don't know my own motivations for having a certain belief before somebody endowed with an excessive amount of empathy puts me straight.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @horace said in Crying Shame:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

                  Which is worse, missing funerals, canceling weddings, losing your job, losing family members, or having to wear a mask while you collect your medal?

                  We've lost our minds alright.

                  Because we can’t discuss a particular application of a mask rule, without extrapolating to a blanket notion of whether COVID is bad for people and whether we should have empathy for that.

                  Having to wear a mask for a medal ceremony pales into insignificance next to a lot of the other things that have happened because of Covid.

                  And last week many of us were saying how little we care about the olympics. What changed?

                  Suddenly, there's something to talk about, and it isn't even the actual sport? It's masks. The never-ending saga of masks. This isn't about the olympics at all. It's about masks.

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                  #25

                  @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

                  @horace said in Crying Shame:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

                  Which is worse, missing funerals, canceling weddings, losing your job, losing family members, or having to wear a mask while you collect your medal?

                  We've lost our minds alright.

                  Because we can’t discuss a particular application of a mask rule, without extrapolating to a blanket notion of whether COVID is bad for people and whether we should have empathy for that.

                  Having to wear a mask for a medal ceremony pales into insignificance next to a lot of the other things that have happened because of Covid.

                  And last week many of us were saying how little we care about the olympics. What changed?

                  Suddenly, there's something to talk about, and it isn't even the actual sport? It's masks. The never-ending saga of masks. This isn't about the olympics at all. It's about masks.

                  COVID is bad for people and it is sad when they get it.

                  This podium mask rule is unnecessary and takes away from a special moment an athlete has worked towards for most of their lives.

                  There, I made it through a whole post without contradicting myself.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • LarryL Offline
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                    Larry
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #26

                    This thread is a very good example of how the brain works on each side of the political spectrum. Those on the right are able to see, understand, and focus on the point being made, those on the Left are not.

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                    • LarryL Larry

                      This thread is a very good example of how the brain works on each side of the political spectrum. Those on the right are able to see, understand, and focus on the point being made, those on the Left are not.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #27

                      @larry said in Crying Shame:

                      This thread is a very good example of how the brain works on each side of the political spectrum. Those on the right are able to see, understand, and focus on the point being made, those on the Left are not.

                      And some of can see that there's quite possibly a sub-text to the point being made.

                      It's funny that you capitalise the Left, but not the right.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @larry said in Crying Shame:

                        This thread is a very good example of how the brain works on each side of the political spectrum. Those on the right are able to see, understand, and focus on the point being made, those on the Left are not.

                        And some of can see that there's quite possibly a sub-text to the point being made.

                        It's funny that you capitalise the Left, but not the right.

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                        Larry
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

                        @larry said in Crying Shame:

                        This thread is a very good example of how the brain works on each side of the political spectrum. Those on the right are able to see, understand, and focus on the point being made, those on the Left are not.

                        And some of can see that there's quite possibly a sub-text to the point being made.

                        Nah, that's just your paranoia kicking in.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @larry said in Crying Shame:

                          This thread is a very good example of how the brain works on each side of the political spectrum. Those on the right are able to see, understand, and focus on the point being made, those on the Left are not.

                          And some of can see that there's quite possibly a sub-text to the point being made.

                          It's funny that you capitalise the Left, but not the right.

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                          Horace
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                          #29

                          @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

                          @larry said in Crying Shame:

                          This thread is a very good example of how the brain works on each side of the political spectrum. Those on the right are able to see, understand, and focus on the point being made, those on the Left are not.

                          And some of can see that there's quite possibly a sub-text to the point being made.

                          The subtext is probably explained by Jolly’s subsequent post about being familiar with the moment and how much it means. Rather than an anti mask zealot looking for any opportunity to criticize mask rules.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • LarryL Offline
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                            Larry
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            The capitalization is the result of autocorrect, not a decision on my part, either conscious or unconscious.

                            But once again, that's your paranoia kicking in. lefties share that in common too. Its a part of their mental disease.

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                              #31

                              A mask on the platform during the anthem is stupid.

                              Stupid

                              There is zero chance that any covid will be transmitted.

                              Or at least so close to zero it doesn't matter. Keep them 6 feet apart if you have to.

                              The mask is a stupid, thoughtless, selfish political gesture, nothing more.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #32

                                I think the mask rule is almost certainly unnecessary from a health perspective, but is a demonstration of something else. They're trying to show that masking is still important.

                                At least, that's my totally un-empathetic take. I honestly don't really know.

                                There sure have been a lot of people acting like they've lost their tiny minds during this pandemic. People showing up for huge BLM demonstrations right in the middle of a lockdown. People refusing to wear a mask as it's a symbol of fascism. People believing all kinds of rubbish about Bill Gates. I could go on. And on, and on, and on.

                                The medal ceremony is a long, long way from the current capital of crazy-town.

                                I was only joking

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                                • LarryL Larry

                                  The capitalization is the result of autocorrect, not a decision on my part, either conscious or unconscious.

                                  But once again, that's your paranoia kicking in. lefties share that in common too. Its a part of their mental disease.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #33

                                  @larry said in Crying Shame:

                                  The capitalization is the result of autocorrect, not a decision on my part, either conscious or unconscious.

                                  But once again, that's your paranoia kicking in. lefties share that in common too. Its a part of their mental disease.

                                  Actually, it was me having a bit of a laugh. And now, you're failing to capitalise 'lefties' when you should be! Are you sending secret messages to your paymasters at QANon???

                                  I was only joking

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

                                    Seeing a mask as a symbol of fascism is not what most people are seeing. That's a lefty's take on it, once again missing the point and showing the difference in how each side thinks. The mask is not a symbol of anything. The push to force people to wear on IS fascist. And there is a world of difference between the two views. But the right can't discuss it with the Left because the same inability to see the issue that caused them to spread the notion that a mask is a "symbol" of something drives every single thought a lefty has when trying to discuss something with one.

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @larry said in Crying Shame:

                                      The capitalization is the result of autocorrect, not a decision on my part, either conscious or unconscious.

                                      But once again, that's your paranoia kicking in. lefties share that in common too. Its a part of their mental disease.

                                      Actually, it was me having a bit of a laugh. And now, you're failing to capitalise 'lefties' when you should be! Are you sending secret messages to your paymasters at QANon???

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                                      Larry
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                                      #35

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Crying Shame:

                                      @larry said in Crying Shame:

                                      The capitalization is the result of autocorrect, not a decision on my part, either conscious or unconscious.

                                      But once again, that's your paranoia kicking in. lefties share that in common too. Its a part of their mental disease.

                                      Actually, it was me having a bit of a laugh. And now, you're failing to capitalise 'lefties' when you should be! Are you sending secret messages to your paymasters at QANon???

                                      Nah. Just fucking with your head..

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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #36

                                        But that's another example of how a lefty's brain works. Disagree with them, and you're a racist. Try to explain a right wing view, you're a member of Qanon. Yada yada yada. Lefties are like a bunch of trained sheep.

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                                        • LarryL Larry

                                          But that's another example of how a lefty's brain works. Disagree with them, and you're a racist. Try to explain a right wing view, you're a member of Qanon. Yada yada yada. Lefties are like a bunch of trained sheep.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          #37

                                          @larry said in Crying Shame:

                                          But that's another example of how a lefty's brain works. Disagree with them, and you're a racist. Try to explain a right wing view, you're a member of Qanon. Yada yada yada. Lefties are like a bunch of trained sheep.

                                          Dude, you're taking my nonsense way too seriously 😆

                                          Also, you can't train sheep. God knows, I've tried.

                                          I was only joking

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