Hydrogen vs. Ammonia

[Jolly]

With Toyota developing a hydrogen car, will that eventually replace gas cars? Or will the promise of ammonia powered cars really be the future?

[Aqua Letifer]

@jolly said in Hydrogen vs. Ammonia:

With Toyota developing a hydrogen car, will that eventually replace gas cars? Or will the promise of ammonia powered cars really be the future?

Cars should've completely replaced bicycles, but didn't.
Planes didn't replace trains.

I don't think any one technology is necessarily going to replace the other. Not for the next 100+ years, anyway.

[George K]

I'd not heard of ammonia as being a source of hydrogen. Sounds intriguing. Easily stored, safe...

[Jolly]

@george-k said in Hydrogen vs. Ammonia:

I'd not heard of ammonia as being a source of hydrogen. Sounds intriguing. Easily stored, safe...

And when you burn it, you emit nitrogen out the tailpipe. It's intriguing...And pipelines already exist for it.

[George K]

How difficult is it to manufacture ammonia?

[LuFins Dad]

@aqua-letifer said in Hydrogen vs. Ammonia:

@jolly said in Hydrogen vs. Ammonia:

With Toyota developing a hydrogen car, will that eventually replace gas cars? Or will the promise of ammonia powered cars really be the future?

Cars should've completely replaced bicycles, but didn't.
Planes didn't replace trains.

I don't think any one technology is necessarily going to replace the other. Not for the next 100+ years,

Closer analogy would be a manual transmission. Those are still around, but primarily for sport or for a very few specialist purposes.

[Doctor Phibes]

@george-k said in Hydrogen vs. Ammonia:

How difficult is it to manufacture ammonia?

I don't think it's particularly hard - it's used a lot in making fertilizer. I worked on a few chemical plants back in the 90's where ammonia was used a lot.

I have to say, there are better smells.

[Horace]

When you burn a lot of calories through exercise, you smell ammonia. Fun fact.

[Renauda]

https://www.power-eng.com/gas/op-ed-whats-the-verdict-on-ammonia-as-fuel-or-as-hydrogen-carrier/#gref

[George K]

@renauda said in Hydrogen vs. Ammonia:

https://www.power-eng.com/gas/op-ed-whats-the-verdict-on-ammonia-as-fuel-or-as-hydrogen-carrier/#gref

Thanks for that. Fascinating stuff.