The FBI
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I think Trump and his case brilliantly illuminated the corruption of the FBI. Most of you didn't give a damn. Because, Trump.
The problem with that kind of selective law enforcement and internal rot, us that eventually it's your ox being goredBarr did nothing, even though he was aware of this in 2020.
Kevin Clinesmith, who altered evidence, wasn't prosecuted.
It's the culture, and it's deep.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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I think Trump and his case brilliantly illuminated the corruption of the FBI. Most of you didn't give a damn. Because, Trump.
The problem with that kind of selective law enforcement and internal rot, us that eventually it's your ox being goredBarr did nothing, even though he was aware of this in 2020.
Kevin Clinesmith, who altered evidence, wasn't prosecuted.
It's the culture, and it's deep.
Cultures form over decades, not a couple of years.
I'm no expert, but...
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@doctor-phibes said in The FBI:
I think Trump and his case brilliantly illuminated the corruption of the FBI. Most of you didn't give a damn. Because, Trump.
The problem with that kind of selective law enforcement and internal rot, us that eventually it's your ox being goredBarr did nothing, even though he was aware of this in 2020.
Kevin Clinesmith, who altered evidence, wasn't prosecuted.
It's the culture, and it's deep.
Cultures form over decades, not a couple of years.
Since its inception actually. Who the hell is supposed to watch over the FBI? CIA? NSA? I believe that to be congress. We get the government we deserve, I guess.
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Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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We get the government we deserve, I guess.
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If we want integrity - we have to demand integrity as citizens.
More and more we demand wins, at the expense of integrity.
Again, Trump.
Yes, a lot of this stuff has been going on for years. But if not for Trump wailing in the wilderness about the Deep State, would anybody pay any attention? Especially after it accelerated during his campaign?
You want to fix it? Then insist laws be applied equally. For BLM. For Trump. For Congress.
Ain't gonna happen. Horace is right, in his assessment.
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We get the government we deserve, I guess.
100%
If we want integrity - we have to demand integrity as citizens.
More and more we demand wins, at the expense of integrity.
Again, Trump.
Yes, a lot of this stuff has been going on for years. But if not for Trump wailing in the wilderness about the Deep State, would anybody pay any attention? Especially after it accelerated during his campaign?
You want to fix it? Then insist laws be applied equally. For BLM. For Trump. For Congress.
Ain't gonna happen. Horace is right, in his assessment.
I was trying to be inclusive of both the left and right in my comment
But, yes - Trump is a good example of this. He's overtly low-integrity (and typically you have to pay a bit more attention to spot it in politicians).Some people see that as a good thing - "at least you know where he stands". I don't. It's a tacit acceptance that integrity matters less than winning. Pretending to be high integrity at least acknowledges that integrity > winning.
But yes - the difference between him and others is that he wears it on his sleeve a bit more proudly.
I think the left is getting Trumpier as well in temperment... and that's not a good thing.
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If we want integrity - we have to demand integrity as citizens.
More and more we demand wins, at the expense of integrity.Which might explain things. If a citizenry is itself corrupt and/or corruptible, how concerned will they be for the honesty of their representatives?
It's a two-way street.
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If we want integrity - we have to demand integrity as citizens.
More and more we demand wins, at the expense of integrity.Which might explain things. If a citizenry is itself corrupt and/or corruptible, how concerned will they be for the honesty of their representatives?
I think if you poll people - a lot of people would be comfortable with someone who can "get shit done" in undemocratic ways.
I'm not even saying that's an unreasonable way of thinking... but it does feel un-American to me.
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I think if you poll people - a lot of people would be comfortable with someone who can "get shit done" in undemocratic ways.
Actually, a lot of people would be comfortable with someone who can "get shit done they agree with" in undemocratic ways.
Everybody always screams when somebody uses dodgy tactics to do stuff they don't approve of.
There's a yuge difference.
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I'm not even saying that's an unreasonable way of thinking... but it does feel un-American to me.
I thank you for the implied compliment.
There was a time when Americans did put more value on day-to-day moral choices than they do today -- or so we are being portrayed, perhaps unfairly. Or maybe we just had good press.Or better press. It's hard to imagine worse.
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un-American is a very strange adjective.
Nobody says anybody is 'un-British' or 'un-Irish'. I think it's the only nationality where the term is used.
I'm no expert, but...
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@doctor-phibes said in The FBI:
un-American is a very strange adjective.
Nobody says anybody is 'un-British' or 'un-Irish'. I think it's the only nationality where the term is used.
American exceptionalism FTW!
