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Freedom is Scary

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    Loyalty? There hasn’t been loyalty in the workplace since the 1980s

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    @lufins-dad said in Freedom is Scary:

    Loyalty? There hasn’t been loyalty in the workplace since the 1980s

    Yes, somewhere around there

    I was loyal and it paid off in the long run

    But after a number of years it didn't matter as much

    Was that just normal aging or was that a trend?

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      What does loyalty in the work-place even mean?

      Employment is a transactional relationship, not a love affair.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        What does loyalty in the work-place even mean?

        Employment is a transactional relationship, not a love affair.

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        @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

        What does loyalty in the work-place even mean?

        Employment is a transactional relationship, not a love affair.

        Loyalty and talk about treating people like family is very oftentimes code for pathological office culture.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

          What does loyalty in the work-place even mean?

          Employment is a transactional relationship, not a love affair.

          Loyalty and talk about treating people like family is very oftentimes code for pathological office culture.

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          @aqua-letifer said in Freedom is Scary:

          @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

          What does loyalty in the work-place even mean?

          Employment is a transactional relationship, not a love affair.

          Loyalty and talk about treating people like family is very oftentimes code for pathological office culture.

          I once brought a meeting with a customer to an unexpected halt when I said 'We're very much like family here. More specifically, the Mansons.'

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            What does loyalty in the work-place even mean?

            Employment is a transactional relationship, not a love affair.

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            @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

            What does loyalty in the work-place even mean?
            Employment is a transactional relationship, not a love affair.

            Yes. I always thought loyalty meant that I'd undertake to do no overt harm to them as signs my paycheck. That is all an employer can realistically expect. But being as it isn't a love affair, that had better dang well work both ways.

            As equitable as that sounds, however, it's the individual employee who most often gets the short end.

            Such is life.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @aqua-letifer said in Freedom is Scary:

              @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

              What does loyalty in the work-place even mean?

              Employment is a transactional relationship, not a love affair.

              Loyalty and talk about treating people like family is very oftentimes code for pathological office culture.

              I once brought a meeting with a customer to an unexpected halt when I said 'We're very much like family here. More specifically, the Mansons.'

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              @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

              @aqua-letifer said in Freedom is Scary:

              @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

              What does loyalty in the work-place even mean?

              Employment is a transactional relationship, not a love affair.

              Loyalty and talk about treating people like family is very oftentimes code for pathological office culture.

              I once brought a meeting with a customer to an unexpected halt when I said 'We're very much like family here. More specifically, the Mansons.'

              😄

              My last employers ran their operation very much like Scientology. David Miscavige was basically our department head.

              Please love yourself.

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                When I made the joke, my boss laughed a little bit longer and harder than I felt was appropriate.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  When I made the joke, my boss laughed a little bit longer and harder than I felt was appropriate.

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                  @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

                  When I made the joke, my boss laughed a little bit longer and harder than I felt was appropriate.

                  What did the customer do? Did they stay a customer?

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    When I made the joke, my boss laughed a little bit longer and harder than I felt was appropriate.

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                    @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

                    When I made the joke, my boss laughed a little bit longer and harder than I felt was appropriate.

                    LOL. I bet you and your Russian friend were a real laff riot in that place.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

                      When I made the joke, my boss laughed a little bit longer and harder than I felt was appropriate.

                      What did the customer do? Did they stay a customer?

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                      @aqua-letifer said in Freedom is Scary:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

                      When I made the joke, my boss laughed a little bit longer and harder than I felt was appropriate.

                      What did the customer do? Did they stay a customer?

                      They laughed their asses off, thankfully. It's a bunch of engineers, so you're usually pretty safe with that kind of thing.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @aqua-letifer said in Freedom is Scary:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

                        When I made the joke, my boss laughed a little bit longer and harder than I felt was appropriate.

                        What did the customer do? Did they stay a customer?

                        They laughed their asses off, thankfully. It's a bunch of engineers, so you're usually pretty safe with that kind of thing.

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                        @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

                        @aqua-letifer said in Freedom is Scary:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Freedom is Scary:

                        When I made the joke, my boss laughed a little bit longer and harder than I felt was appropriate.

                        What did the customer do? Did they stay a customer?

                        They laughed their asses off, thankfully. It's a bunch of engineers, so you're usually pretty safe with that kind of thing.

                        That was my experience with engineers as well, they had a solid sense of off-the-wall humour when the occasion arose. Can't say the same about MBA's and accountants on any occasions;* although for some reason the engineers found them weirdly funny.

                        *semi-colon

                        Elbows up!

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