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Baseball: Change the rules

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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
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    Yes, there are problems.

    The game has changed, not for the better.

    I would slow the ball before I moved the pitcher's mound.

    Or lower the mound, again. It was lowered 5 inches in 1968.

    If they ever try to change 90 feet between bases that will be the end of the game.

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    • CopperC Copper

      Yes, there are problems.

      The game has changed, not for the better.

      I would slow the ball before I moved the pitcher's mound.

      Or lower the mound, again. It was lowered 5 inches in 1968.

      If they ever try to change 90 feet between bases that will be the end of the game.

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      @copper said in Baseball: Change the rules:

      I would slow the ball

      How?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        I think they have played with the seams before.

        They can make the seams a little bigger to introduce drag.

        This is debatable, endlessly.

        Because the ball doesn't just travel from the pitcher to the batter. Other players throw it and catch it and it gets hit.

        But I think this might be better than changing distances.

        They could, maybe, make it a little softer. That doesn't slow the pitch, but it could reduce home runs.

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          George K
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          Eliminate steroids???

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            College already has the twenty second clock. It works.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Loki
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              A clock between pitches would just restore the game to the way it used to be played.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                The CWS was pretty entertaining, if you like baseball. The clock forces faster game play. They also use metal bats...That's long been a hotly debated point in the major leagues.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Will comments that pitchers "dawdle" between pitches to allow the arm to recover.

                  If you put a clock on the game, it's going to change how pitchers throw the ball, I assume.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    In 1884, Old Hoss Radbourn pitched in 75 games.

                    He started 73 of them and won 60, with 678 innings pitched

                    And he did it for $3,000.

                    https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/radboch01.shtml

                    This is how pitchers should pitch.

                    Justin Verlander won the Cy Young award in 2019

                    Started 34 games won 21, 223 innings pitched

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Most starters today, only pitch five or six innings.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Most starters today, only pitch five or six innings.

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                        @jolly said in Baseball: Change the rules:

                        Most starters today, only pitch five or six innings.

                        And still have Tommy John’s Surgery before they are 25…

                        The Brad

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                          Before I added a clock for the pitcher, I’d require any relief pitcher to have to pitch to three batters at least… The biggest delay in baseball today are the pitching changes… Managers will take out their starter, bring in a reliever that warms up for 5 minutes, pitches to one batter, then they pull him and bring in another reliever who proceeds to warm up for another 5 minutes. It’s absurd and overly specialized.

                          Oh, and get rid of the DH!

                          And at least 8 members of a football team need to be required to play both sides of the ball! And no more specialists as kicker or punter!

                          The Brad

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                            Separate but related:

                            "The Indiana Jones of baseball without the coordination."

                            Fan Takes Mighty Spill Trying to Catch Matt Olson Dinger. This certainly could have been worse. Any time spent tumbling wildly down to concrete is not advisable. If all's good though, there are worst things to be known for than giving it 110 percent for a dinger-related artifacts.

                            More, incl video: https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/fan-takes-mighty-spill-trying-to-catch-matt-olson-dinger-01faemmdf12c?utm_source=RSS

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              @jolly said in Baseball: Change the rules:

                              Most starters today, only pitch five or six innings.

                              And still have Tommy John’s Surgery before they are 25…

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                              @lufins-dad said in Baseball: Change the rules:

                              @jolly said in Baseball: Change the rules:

                              Most starters today, only pitch five or six innings.

                              And still have Tommy John’s Surgery before they are 25…

                              But a lot of that is because of how players are developed today. Remember Big Ben, who pitched at LSU? Ben's dad was absolutely maniacal about making his son into a major league player and that kid must have played baseball year-round as a young kid and even when he was in high school at Gonzales.

                              That used to be unusual. Now, it's commonplace. And kids on the travel teams are playing at a higher level of competition.

                              It's no wonder their arms have major problems at 25...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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