FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set
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wrote on 9 Jul 2021, 12:07 last edited by
Lego set #21030, see https://brickset.com/sets/theme-Architecture/subtheme-Landmark-Series
The set by itself is not suspicious, but may be if the accused marks out surveillance points, entrance and evacuation routes on the set.
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wrote on 9 Jul 2021, 12:11 last edited by
You know you're in America when they allow a handgun, a rifle and a shotgun, but they take away his Legos.
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wrote on 9 Jul 2021, 14:28 last edited by
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wrote on 9 Jul 2021, 14:40 last edited by
Does he have other lego sets?
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wrote on 9 Jul 2021, 14:41 last edited by
@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
Capitol riot was incited by a number of Trump's speeches actually makes more sense.
He'd started whining about cheating before the freaking election even started.
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wrote on 10 Jul 2021, 21:25 last edited by
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wrote on 10 Jul 2021, 21:28 last edited by
“They also recovered a notebook from his car. The notebook included various writings, including "Step by Step to Create Hometown Militia" as well as a list of steps such as "Battle Drills," "Ambush" and "Formations" and notes such as "Bring Kit/Body Armor," "Bring Assault Rifle" and "4 Magazines."
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“They also recovered a notebook from his car. The notebook included various writings, including "Step by Step to Create Hometown Militia" as well as a list of steps such as "Battle Drills," "Ambush" and "Formations" and notes such as "Bring Kit/Body Armor," "Bring Assault Rifle" and "4 Magazines."
wrote on 10 Jul 2021, 21:34 last edited by George K 7 Oct 2021, 21:35@loki said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
“They also recovered a notebook from his car. The notebook included various writings, including "Step by Step to Create Hometown Militia" as well as a list of steps such as "Battle Drills," "Ambush" and "Formations" and notes such as "Bring Kit/Body Armor," "Bring Assault Rifle" and "4 Magazines."
Not disputing any of that. The guy's an idiot and, probably a danger, based on what you quoted.
But a Lego Set (unless what @Axtremus said is true)?
He probably had an American flag in his house as well.
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@loki said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
“They also recovered a notebook from his car. The notebook included various writings, including "Step by Step to Create Hometown Militia" as well as a list of steps such as "Battle Drills," "Ambush" and "Formations" and notes such as "Bring Kit/Body Armor," "Bring Assault Rifle" and "4 Magazines."
Not disputing any of that. The guy's an idiot and, probably a danger, based on what you quoted.
But a Lego Set (unless what @Axtremus said is true)?
He probably had an American flag in his house as well.
wrote on 10 Jul 2021, 22:50 last edited by@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
@loki said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
“They also recovered a notebook from his car. The notebook included various writings, including "Step by Step to Create Hometown Militia" as well as a list of steps such as "Battle Drills," "Ambush" and "Formations" and notes such as "Bring Kit/Body Armor," "Bring Assault Rifle" and "4 Magazines."
Not disputing any of that. The guy's an idiot and, probably a danger, based on what you quoted.
But a Lego Set (unless what @Axtremus said is true)?
He probably had an American flag in his house as well.
It’s a model of the attack plan. You can only not see it if you don’t want to. Let’s say his notebook had drawings of the Capitol. I know how funny and weird it looks but overwhelmingly it makes sense to me that it fits the narrative.
Now if you tell me he has lots of legos then I would agree. If that’s the only one it’s a no brainer.
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wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 03:32 last edited by
Sure hope they don’t find my Death Star
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wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 20:52 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 20:53 last edited by
In the twitter feed:
Does that count as "attempted Lego construction"? Or "conspiracy to commit Lego construction"?
Or "intent to commit conspiracy to attempt to construct with Legos"?
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In the twitter feed:
Does that count as "attempted Lego construction"? Or "conspiracy to commit Lego construction"?
Or "intent to commit conspiracy to attempt to construct with Legos"?
wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 21:08 last edited by@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
In the twitter feed:
Does that count as "attempted Lego construction"? Or "conspiracy to commit Lego construction"?
Or "intent to commit conspiracy to attempt to construct with Legos"?
It’s fun but at trial we will get to see the real stuff. Let’s bookmark this page to see what the reality is.
In the same filing, feds noted that Morss had sketched out plans to form a militia in a notebook titled “Step by Step To Create Hometown Militia,” according to Business Insider. Some of the steps included “Ambush,” “Battle Drills” and “Formations.”
Shhh… don’t look here, let’s talk about the lego set.
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@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
In the twitter feed:
Does that count as "attempted Lego construction"? Or "conspiracy to commit Lego construction"?
Or "intent to commit conspiracy to attempt to construct with Legos"?
It’s fun but at trial we will get to see the real stuff. Let’s bookmark this page to see what the reality is.
In the same filing, feds noted that Morss had sketched out plans to form a militia in a notebook titled “Step by Step To Create Hometown Militia,” according to Business Insider. Some of the steps included “Ambush,” “Battle Drills” and “Formations.”
Shhh… don’t look here, let’s talk about the lego set.
wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 21:16 last edited by George K 7 Nov 2021, 21:17@loki said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
In the twitter feed:
Does that count as "attempted Lego construction"? Or "conspiracy to commit Lego construction"?
Or "intent to commit conspiracy to attempt to construct with Legos"?
It’s fun but at trial we will get to see the real stuff. Let’s bookmark this page to see what the reality is.
In the same filing, feds noted that Morss had sketched out plans to form a militia in a notebook titled “Step by Step To Create Hometown Militia,” according to Business Insider. Some of the steps included “Ambush,” “Battle Drills” and “Formations.”
Shhh… don’t look here, let’s talk about the lego set.
You said that earlier, and I don't dispute any of that. The guy's a whacko, and probably a dangerous one at that.
I just find it that everyone was frothing over the Lego story, and now...it's not true.
Our media in action - again.
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@loki said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
In the twitter feed:
Does that count as "attempted Lego construction"? Or "conspiracy to commit Lego construction"?
Or "intent to commit conspiracy to attempt to construct with Legos"?
It’s fun but at trial we will get to see the real stuff. Let’s bookmark this page to see what the reality is.
In the same filing, feds noted that Morss had sketched out plans to form a militia in a notebook titled “Step by Step To Create Hometown Militia,” according to Business Insider. Some of the steps included “Ambush,” “Battle Drills” and “Formations.”
Shhh… don’t look here, let’s talk about the lego set.
You said that earlier, and I don't dispute any of that. The guy's a whacko, and probably a dangerous one at that.
I just find it that everyone was frothing over the Lego story, and now...it's not true.
Our media in action - again.
wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 21:35 last edited by Loki 7 Nov 2021, 21:41@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
@loki said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
In the twitter feed:
Does that count as "attempted Lego construction"? Or "conspiracy to commit Lego construction"?
Or "intent to commit conspiracy to attempt to construct with Legos"?
It’s fun but at trial we will get to see the real stuff. Let’s bookmark this page to see what the reality is.
In the same filing, feds noted that Morss had sketched out plans to form a militia in a notebook titled “Step by Step To Create Hometown Militia,” according to Business Insider. Some of the steps included “Ambush,” “Battle Drills” and “Formations.”
Shhh… don’t look here, let’s talk about the lego set.
You said that earlier, and I don't dispute any of that. The guy's a whacko, and probably a dangerous one at that.
I just find it that everyone was frothing over the Lego story, and now...it's not true.
Our media in action - again.
It wasn’t the media. The FBI affidavit says fully constructed but references “law enforcement” as stating it. So who is “law enforcement” ? Also haven’t seen “law enforcement” backtrack but I am assuming the tweeter isn’t making stuff up.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-took-lego-set-of-capitol-from-january-6-rioter-2021-7
See Paragraph 50, don’t be distracted by the mountain of visual evidence on the perp. He’s toast.
Typical defense, mountains of evidence of every kind and find one discrepency and make it the issue. FFS
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@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
@loki said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
@george-k said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
In the twitter feed:
Does that count as "attempted Lego construction"? Or "conspiracy to commit Lego construction"?
Or "intent to commit conspiracy to attempt to construct with Legos"?
It’s fun but at trial we will get to see the real stuff. Let’s bookmark this page to see what the reality is.
In the same filing, feds noted that Morss had sketched out plans to form a militia in a notebook titled “Step by Step To Create Hometown Militia,” according to Business Insider. Some of the steps included “Ambush,” “Battle Drills” and “Formations.”
Shhh… don’t look here, let’s talk about the lego set.
You said that earlier, and I don't dispute any of that. The guy's a whacko, and probably a dangerous one at that.
I just find it that everyone was frothing over the Lego story, and now...it's not true.
Our media in action - again.
It wasn’t the media. The FBI affidavit says fully constructed but references “law enforcement” as stating it. So who is “law enforcement” ? Also haven’t seen “law enforcement” backtrack but I am assuming the tweeter isn’t making stuff up.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-took-lego-set-of-capitol-from-january-6-rioter-2021-7
See Paragraph 50, don’t be distracted by the mountain of visual evidence on the perp. He’s toast.
Typical defense, mountains of evidence of every kind and find one discrepency and make it the issue. FFS
wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 21:59 last edited by@loki said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
See Paragraph 50, don’t be distracted by the mountain of visual evidence on the perp. He’s toast.
Typical defense, mountains of evidence of every kind and find one discrepency and make it the issue. FFSI agree - he's probably toast. You're misunderstanding my comments.
My point is that everyone said "LOOK A THAT! He had a model of the CAPITOL BUILDING!" OMG!!!!
And, now, in paragraph 2 of this:
Yeah, it's unassembled.
Is it possible that Kelly lied? Yeah.
Is it more likely that LEOs fucked up? Yeah, more possible.
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wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 02:42 last edited by
So, apparently he wasn't smart enough or disciplined enough to finish the Lego set he'd bought for Christ alone knows what reason, but it probably wasn't to build with his children.
Was anybody really expecting the FBI to arrest a traveling band of rocket scientists?
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wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 15:12 last edited by Loki 7 Dec 2021, 15:13
George
I do think you have a valid point and I note in the bin other lego sets partially or completely finished. Probably the bin was brought in by law enforcement to collect evidence.
The real risk to law enforcement credibility is if the lego being fully constructed was not a miscommunication but rather a pattern of misconstruing evidence, what and who can we believe?
On balance I do think the perp has a lot to overcome to be in fact innocent. I frankly don’t know if running the discrepancy into the ground is worth it but I do think the media should note the correction since they relied on FBI and law enforcement avvidavit(s) for their reporting.
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Sure hope they don’t find my Death Star
wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 17:49 last edited by@lufins-dad said in FBI seized 'fully constructed' US Capitol Lego set:
Sure hope they don’t find my Death Star
You can get a starter kit here:
