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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    What is wrong with a media outlet that reports Mr. Biden's dirty little secrets?

    Traitors!

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    • L Offline
      L Offline
      Loki
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      The real question is does Biden generally represent accurately his life on Amtrak. A mistaken detail doesn’t undermine that and would be a gotcha if a pattern of mischaracterization isn’t found.

      But as far as lies go, Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

      CopperC George KG 2 Replies Last reply
      • L Loki

        The real question is does Biden generally represent accurately his life on Amtrak. A mistaken detail doesn’t undermine that and would be a gotcha if a pattern of mischaracterization isn’t found.

        But as far as lies go, Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

        CopperC Offline
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        Copper
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

        Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

        Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

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        • L Loki

          The real question is does Biden generally represent accurately his life on Amtrak. A mistaken detail doesn’t undermine that and would be a gotcha if a pattern of mischaracterization isn’t found.

          But as far as lies go, Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

          The real question is does Biden generally represent accurately his life on Amtrak. A mistaken detail doesn’t undermine that and would be a gotcha if a pattern of mischaracterization isn’t found.

          If it were one detail, I'd agree. However, he's stated this "mistaken" detail twice. And, as everyone knows, he has a history of making shit up.

          The surprising part of the story is that CNN actually reported it.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            We've got so used to scrupulous honesty over the last 4 years, this is very disappointing.

            I was only joking

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            • CopperC Copper

              @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

              Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

              Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

              L Offline
              L Offline
              Loki
              wrote on last edited by Loki
              #7

              @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

              @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

              Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

              Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

              Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

              https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

              CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
              • L Loki

                @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                CopperC Offline
                CopperC Offline
                Copper
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                It made a nice distraction I guess.

                JollyJ L 2 Replies Last reply
                • CopperC Copper

                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                  @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                  Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                  Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                  Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                  https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                  Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                  So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                  I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                  It made a nice distraction I guess.

                  JollyJ Offline
                  JollyJ Offline
                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                  @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                  Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                  Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                  Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                  https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                  Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                  So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                  I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                  It made a nice distraction I guess.

                  Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                    @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                    @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                    Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                    Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                    Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                    https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                    Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                    So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                    I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                    It made a nice distraction I guess.

                    L Offline
                    L Offline
                    Loki
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                    @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                    @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                    @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                    Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                    Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                    Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                    https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                    Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                    So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                    I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                    It made a nice distraction I guess.

                    Did you even look at my link? The birth announcement was within a week. So where did the 2 year bullshit story come from. See it always pays to go to source material.

                    CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                      @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                      @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                      @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                      Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                      Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                      Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                      https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                      Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                      So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                      I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                      It made a nice distraction I guess.

                      Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                      L Offline
                      L Offline
                      Loki
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                      @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                      @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                      @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                      @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                      Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                      Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                      Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                      https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                      Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                      So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                      I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                      It made a nice distraction I guess.

                      Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                      Oh I would love to see everyone’s grades. I’ll bet you sight unseen Obama was nowhere near the bottom of recent presidents.

                      MikM JollyJ 2 Replies Last reply
                      • L Loki

                        @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                        @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                        @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                        @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                        Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                        Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                        Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                        https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                        Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                        So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                        I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                        It made a nice distraction I guess.

                        Did you even look at my link? The birth announcement was within a week. So where did the 2 year bullshit story come from. See it always pays to go to source material.

                        CopperC Offline
                        CopperC Offline
                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                        @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                        @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                        @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                        @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                        Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                        Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                        Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                        https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                        Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                        So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                        I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                        It made a nice distraction I guess.

                        Did you even look at my link? The birth announcement was within a week. So where did the 2 year bullshit story come from. See it always pays to go to source material.

                        Within a week of what?

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                          Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                          Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                          https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                          Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                          So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                          I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                          It made a nice distraction I guess.

                          Did you even look at my link? The birth announcement was within a week. So where did the 2 year bullshit story come from. See it always pays to go to source material.

                          Within a week of what?

                          L Offline
                          L Offline
                          Loki
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                          Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                          Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                          Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                          https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                          Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                          So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                          I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                          It made a nice distraction I guess.

                          Did you even look at my link? The birth announcement was within a week. So where did the 2 year bullshit story come from. See it always pays to go to source material.

                          Within a week of what?

                          Obama was born on August 4, 1961. Two Honolulu newspapers during the week following his birth had his birth announcement in their newspaper under “birth announcements”.

                          A good old birthed conspiracy theory relies on the fact that you don’t know that.

                          Well of course you could argue that his parents knew he was going to President some day and conspired at the time of his birth to get that announcement in the paper. I’m sure you can find a group of people that would swallow that canard.

                          CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
                          • L Loki

                            @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                            Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                            Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                            https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                            Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                            So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                            I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                            It made a nice distraction I guess.

                            Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                            Oh I would love to see everyone’s grades. I’ll bet you sight unseen Obama was nowhere near the bottom of recent presidents.

                            MikM Offline
                            MikM Offline
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #14

                            @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                            Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                            Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                            Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                            https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                            Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                            So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                            I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                            It made a nice distraction I guess.

                            Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                            Oh I would love to see everyone’s grades. I’ll bet you sight unseen Obama was nowhere near the bottom of recent presidents.

                            No, he's clearly very intelligent and educated. Any other allegation is simply partisan slagging.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • L Loki

                              @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                              Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                              Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                              https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                              Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                              So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                              I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                              It made a nice distraction I guess.

                              Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                              Oh I would love to see everyone’s grades. I’ll bet you sight unseen Obama was nowhere near the bottom of recent presidents.

                              JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #15

                              @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                              Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                              Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                              Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                              https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                              Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                              So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                              I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                              It made a nice distraction I guess.

                              Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                              Oh I would love to see everyone’s grades. I’ll bet you sight unseen Obama was nowhere near the bottom of recent presidents.

                              I don't know. And neither do you.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • L Loki

                                @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                                Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                                Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                                https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                                Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                                So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                                I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                                It made a nice distraction I guess.

                                Did you even look at my link? The birth announcement was within a week. So where did the 2 year bullshit story come from. See it always pays to go to source material.

                                Within a week of what?

                                Obama was born on August 4, 1961. Two Honolulu newspapers during the week following his birth had his birth announcement in their newspaper under “birth announcements”.

                                A good old birthed conspiracy theory relies on the fact that you don’t know that.

                                Well of course you could argue that his parents knew he was going to President some day and conspired at the time of his birth to get that announcement in the paper. I’m sure you can find a group of people that would swallow that canard.

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                                CopperC Offline
                                Copper
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                                Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                                Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                                https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                                Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                                So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                                I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                                It made a nice distraction I guess.

                                Did you even look at my link? The birth announcement was within a week. So where did the 2 year bullshit story come from. See it always pays to go to source material.

                                Within a week of what?

                                Obama was born on August 4, 1961. Two Honolulu newspapers during the week following his birth had his birth announcement in their newspaper under “birth announcements”.

                                A good old birthed conspiracy theory relies on the fact that you don’t know that.

                                Well of course you could argue that his parents knew he was going to President some day and conspired at the time of his birth to get that announcement in the paper. I’m sure you can find a group of people that would swallow that canard.

                                Did anyone know about this birth announcement prior to 2011? With the possible exception of a few Hawaiians who weren't really aware of the significance.

                                The birth announcement was revealed by Mr. Obama's people in 2011.

                                Let me repeat.

                                Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                                So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                                I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                                It made a nice distraction I guess.

                                I'm not swallowing any canards.
                                I'm not taking a position on his citizenship.
                                I am simply recollecting a few well-known events.

                                If I'm wrong about the timing or the mystery of why it took so long, let me know.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                                  Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                                  Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                                  https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                                  Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                                  So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                                  I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                                  It made a nice distraction I guess.

                                  Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                                  Oh I would love to see everyone’s grades. I’ll bet you sight unseen Obama was nowhere near the bottom of recent presidents.

                                  I don't know. And neither do you.

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                                  @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                  Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                                  Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                                  Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                                  https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                                  Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                                  So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                                  I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                                  It made a nice distraction I guess.

                                  Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                                  Oh I would love to see everyone’s grades. I’ll bet you sight unseen Obama was nowhere near the bottom of recent presidents.

                                  I don't know. And neither do you.

                                  And apparently Trump’s Wharton grades are unknowable as well.

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                                    @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                    @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                    @jolly said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                    @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                    @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                    @copper said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                    @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                    Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the US is about as big as they get.

                                    Almost as big as saying he was born in the US with no evidence.

                                    Um you should check out the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper at the time. That’s some whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy if that was faked

                                    https://www.newspapers.com/clip/18503640/barack-obama-birth-announcement/

                                    Did you know that birth announcement and the copy of the birth certificate were released more than 2 years after the election?

                                    So I don't know if was a whopper, humdinger of a conspiracy, but it was interesting timing.

                                    I still wonder why he didn't just release it way back when.

                                    It made a nice distraction I guess.

                                    Hell, I'm still waiting on his grades...

                                    Oh I would love to see everyone’s grades. I’ll bet you sight unseen Obama was nowhere near the bottom of recent presidents.

                                    I don't know. And neither do you.

                                    And apparently Trump’s Wharton grades are unknowable as well.

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                                    @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                    And apparently Trump’s Wharton grades are unknowable as well.

                                    Nope:

                                    https://halfwaypost.com/2019/11/15/wharton-finally-released-trumps-grades-fs-in-business-as-in-poetry/

                                    “Donald Trump was a real dumbf***,” explained one of Trump’s Business professors, Dr. Walt Winters, 91. “I remember him vividly all these years later. His written essays about economics always clearly exhibited his not knowing anything. A real dunce. The chapter in the book about tariffs and trade wars he obviously didn’t understand. When I assigned the class a paper on what business they dreamed of starting, he wrote about how he’d start a beauty pageant to sneak in on the changing rooms. He actually wrote that in his paper. But I guess, to his credit, he did make that dream come true. But his test scores were always single digits. He could not seem to retain any facts. One time I remember very clearly he turned in an exam with a bunch of different doodles of breasts in the margins, and half the answers empty. But other times he’d turn in failing exams with strangely articulate poems on the back of pages that just made no sense juxtaposed with his otherwise clear lack of intellectual curiosity about anything covered in class.”

                                    Trump’s poetry professor, Stephen Jacobs, 94, remembers Trump being surprisingly philosophical in his poetic submissions to Wharton’s annual english department poetry contest.

                                    “I actually kept one of his poems all these years,” Jacobs said. “And boy does it sound weird today knowing how Donald Trump ran for president pandering to Christians. But prepare yourself, because I think it reveals facets of Donald Trump you would not expect. It’s got all kinds of nuances and subtleties, nothing like how he communicates today. It’s like he’s some kind of idiot savant when it comes to poetic journaling. He should have stuck with literature instead of business. And certainly not gone into politics, for America’s sake. Here, I’ll show you. I swear to God this is Donald Trump’s poem.”

                                    Donald Trump wrote this when he was 21-years-old:

                                    The Thing About Jesus

                                    by Donald J. Trump, 1968

                                    The thing about Jesus
                                    is that he’s billed as the savior of all mankind
                                    because he died on a cross as if it were some ultimate death
                                    in sacrifice for our sins
                                    but let’s be honest—
                                    being crucified
                                    as far as punishments go
                                    isn’t really that bad—
                                    like for sure it sucks

                                    but

                                    there are much worse ways to die than being nailed to a cross.
                                    like prometheus of another mythology
                                    who is chained to a mountain and every single day an eagle comes
                                    and tears out his organs with its beak
                                    and it has been happening for thousands of years
                                    and it happened today and yesterday

                                    and all throughout the 50s
                                    and is going to happen tomorrow
                                    and the day after
                                    and so on forever.

                                    In fact
                                    to hype up Jesus’s torture and then stick with a measly cross
                                    is merely unimaginative
                                    and his suffering lasted several hours
                                    though as far as historical crucifixions go
                                    that’s nothing
                                    for plenty of condemned Roman victims.

                                    Beyond wood beams humans have invented worse
                                    like cooking each other in bronze bulls
                                    where the metal burns you
                                    and adds insult to injury
                                    while the sound of your screams makes music from a horn

                                    so your death is entertaining for your torturers
                                    as they sip their digestifs in the banquet room.
                                    Being strangled is another crazy way to go out
                                    maybe it’s shorter
                                    but talk about an aggressive way for Jesus to die

                                    rolling on the ground being strangled by Judas for sixteen minutes
                                    until he passes out and then maybe gets his face and skull
                                    stomped on for several minutes like the mob does.

                                    Being drawn and quartered maybe sounds worse
                                    torn to pieces for offense against the crown,
                                    it wasn’t a very Jesusy kind of thing for medieval Christians to do.

                                    Or wasting away through months of Nazi Auschwitz medical torture
                                    and losing your mind waiting to die on wooden planks
                                    with a bit of water and black bread until you waste away.

                                    Or growing weak from cancer denied a health insurance claim
                                    for your chemo dying for being poor
                                    or drafting into a pointless and unwinnable war
                                    in a country whose independence your occupation efforts are betraying
                                    or getting captured and beheaded on live television
                                    for committing crimes of journalism
                                    or being chased through swampy woods for a week
                                    somewhere deep in Louisiana
                                    and beat and lynched for talking to a white woman.

                                    What if Jesus had died of starvation slowly on the cold street
                                    in a town whose charitable impulses
                                    were banned with civic laws criminalizing feeding the homeless?

                                    I guess I don’t know what I’m trying to get at
                                    but perhaps we fetishize the suffering of our prophets
                                    to ignore the suffering of the living.

                                    “Aren’t you surprised?” asked Jacobs. “It truly blew my mind. I showed it to Trump’s business professors when he turned it in, and it floored them, too.”

                                    Jacobs showed the poem to Professor Winters, who kept a copy as well.

                                    “I wouldn’t have believed it, except I could see it was in Donald Trump’s distinctive handwriting,” Winters said. “Even back then he wrote everything with a sharpie, and, instead of taking notes during lectures, he would practice signing his signatures, which really distracted the class because he’d scribble it over and over quick and loudly, and every time he finished a notebook page full of signatures he’d tear it out, hold it up, and then circle his favorite ones. I was always having to tell him to pay attention, but he’d whine in front of the whole class that I was treating him unfairly by not giving him A’s, and that the school’s faculty was rigged against him. Like I said earlier, a total dumbf*** beyond his inexplicable poetic musings.”

                                    Because "Jesusey" and "crimes of journalism."

                                    So there.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      @loki said in Amtrak (confabulatin') Joe:

                                      And apparently Trump’s Wharton grades are unknowable as well.

                                      Nope:

                                      https://halfwaypost.com/2019/11/15/wharton-finally-released-trumps-grades-fs-in-business-as-in-poetry/

                                      “Donald Trump was a real dumbf***,” explained one of Trump’s Business professors, Dr. Walt Winters, 91. “I remember him vividly all these years later. His written essays about economics always clearly exhibited his not knowing anything. A real dunce. The chapter in the book about tariffs and trade wars he obviously didn’t understand. When I assigned the class a paper on what business they dreamed of starting, he wrote about how he’d start a beauty pageant to sneak in on the changing rooms. He actually wrote that in his paper. But I guess, to his credit, he did make that dream come true. But his test scores were always single digits. He could not seem to retain any facts. One time I remember very clearly he turned in an exam with a bunch of different doodles of breasts in the margins, and half the answers empty. But other times he’d turn in failing exams with strangely articulate poems on the back of pages that just made no sense juxtaposed with his otherwise clear lack of intellectual curiosity about anything covered in class.”

                                      Trump’s poetry professor, Stephen Jacobs, 94, remembers Trump being surprisingly philosophical in his poetic submissions to Wharton’s annual english department poetry contest.

                                      “I actually kept one of his poems all these years,” Jacobs said. “And boy does it sound weird today knowing how Donald Trump ran for president pandering to Christians. But prepare yourself, because I think it reveals facets of Donald Trump you would not expect. It’s got all kinds of nuances and subtleties, nothing like how he communicates today. It’s like he’s some kind of idiot savant when it comes to poetic journaling. He should have stuck with literature instead of business. And certainly not gone into politics, for America’s sake. Here, I’ll show you. I swear to God this is Donald Trump’s poem.”

                                      Donald Trump wrote this when he was 21-years-old:

                                      The Thing About Jesus

                                      by Donald J. Trump, 1968

                                      The thing about Jesus
                                      is that he’s billed as the savior of all mankind
                                      because he died on a cross as if it were some ultimate death
                                      in sacrifice for our sins
                                      but let’s be honest—
                                      being crucified
                                      as far as punishments go
                                      isn’t really that bad—
                                      like for sure it sucks

                                      but

                                      there are much worse ways to die than being nailed to a cross.
                                      like prometheus of another mythology
                                      who is chained to a mountain and every single day an eagle comes
                                      and tears out his organs with its beak
                                      and it has been happening for thousands of years
                                      and it happened today and yesterday

                                      and all throughout the 50s
                                      and is going to happen tomorrow
                                      and the day after
                                      and so on forever.

                                      In fact
                                      to hype up Jesus’s torture and then stick with a measly cross
                                      is merely unimaginative
                                      and his suffering lasted several hours
                                      though as far as historical crucifixions go
                                      that’s nothing
                                      for plenty of condemned Roman victims.

                                      Beyond wood beams humans have invented worse
                                      like cooking each other in bronze bulls
                                      where the metal burns you
                                      and adds insult to injury
                                      while the sound of your screams makes music from a horn

                                      so your death is entertaining for your torturers
                                      as they sip their digestifs in the banquet room.
                                      Being strangled is another crazy way to go out
                                      maybe it’s shorter
                                      but talk about an aggressive way for Jesus to die

                                      rolling on the ground being strangled by Judas for sixteen minutes
                                      until he passes out and then maybe gets his face and skull
                                      stomped on for several minutes like the mob does.

                                      Being drawn and quartered maybe sounds worse
                                      torn to pieces for offense against the crown,
                                      it wasn’t a very Jesusy kind of thing for medieval Christians to do.

                                      Or wasting away through months of Nazi Auschwitz medical torture
                                      and losing your mind waiting to die on wooden planks
                                      with a bit of water and black bread until you waste away.

                                      Or growing weak from cancer denied a health insurance claim
                                      for your chemo dying for being poor
                                      or drafting into a pointless and unwinnable war
                                      in a country whose independence your occupation efforts are betraying
                                      or getting captured and beheaded on live television
                                      for committing crimes of journalism
                                      or being chased through swampy woods for a week
                                      somewhere deep in Louisiana
                                      and beat and lynched for talking to a white woman.

                                      What if Jesus had died of starvation slowly on the cold street
                                      in a town whose charitable impulses
                                      were banned with civic laws criminalizing feeding the homeless?

                                      I guess I don’t know what I’m trying to get at
                                      but perhaps we fetishize the suffering of our prophets
                                      to ignore the suffering of the living.

                                      “Aren’t you surprised?” asked Jacobs. “It truly blew my mind. I showed it to Trump’s business professors when he turned it in, and it floored them, too.”

                                      Jacobs showed the poem to Professor Winters, who kept a copy as well.

                                      “I wouldn’t have believed it, except I could see it was in Donald Trump’s distinctive handwriting,” Winters said. “Even back then he wrote everything with a sharpie, and, instead of taking notes during lectures, he would practice signing his signatures, which really distracted the class because he’d scribble it over and over quick and loudly, and every time he finished a notebook page full of signatures he’d tear it out, hold it up, and then circle his favorite ones. I was always having to tell him to pay attention, but he’d whine in front of the whole class that I was treating him unfairly by not giving him A’s, and that the school’s faculty was rigged against him. Like I said earlier, a total dumbf*** beyond his inexplicable poetic musings.”

                                      Because "Jesusey" and "crimes of journalism."

                                      So there.

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                                      Haha.

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                                        Still lying.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          He didn't ride teh train, but he was here in the area today, about 15 miles from me. He visited a manufacturing plant and talked about moving manufacturing back to the states. He learned from the pandemic and supply chain problems. Say, didn't someone else have that idea four years before the pandemic?

                                          He also talked about inflation, saying, and I shit you not, "The best way to fight inflation is to bring prices down.". End of sentence.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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