@jon-nyc said:

We have a day for that. It’s in November.

That's right.

At least Christie seemed to make a bit of distinction. He could have been more clear.

@Andrea-B said:

Actually, Christie said that tribute should be paid to all of those, the living AND those who made the ultimate sacrifice....

We have a day for that. It’s in November.

I suppose you can read that as a conflation of living and dead, but I think his intention was not that.

Spitting hairs, I suppose.

But I get, and don't necessarily disagree with your point.

Meanwhile Lincoln...

jon-nyc said:

@Andrea-B said:

It seems to have lost its original meaning, and it has become the traditional start of the summer season, with picnics, BBQ's and baseball.

Even those who go through the motions of acknowledging it more often than not confuse it with Veterans Day.

FFS. Even Chris Christie.

I have no illusions about what little I can add now to the silent testimony of those who gave their lives willingly for their country. Words are even more feeble on this Memorial Day, for the sight before us is that of a strong and good nation that stands in silence and remembers those who were loved and who, in return, loved their countrymen enough to die for them. Yet, we must try to honor them not for their sakes alone, but for our own. And if words cannot repay the debt we owe these men, surely with our actions we must strive to keep faith with them and with the vision that led them to battle and to final sacrifice."

@jon-nyc said:

You skipped yet another one.

In fairness, you might want to post a picture of the guy when he did serve.

The account of Trump saying those things about veterans is based solely on Kelly's word. As far as I'm aware, there are no other reports that confirm that. The animus between the men was ... intense.

That said, what Trump said about John McCain was reprehensible.

Now that said, I'm waiting for a Democrat, any Democrat condemn what their candidate for senate from Maine said. You know, for the sake of consistency.

jon-nyc said:

You skipped yet another one.

Though in fairness, neither Bush, Biden, nor Clinton were ever said by their own Chief of Staff to have called fallen soldiers ‘suckers’. So maybe, of the presidents who avoided their duty in Vietnam, one in particular deserves special scorn.

@Andrea-B said:

It seems to have lost its original meaning, and it has become the traditional start of the summer season, with picnics, BBQ's and baseball.

Even those who go through the motions of acknowledging it more often than not confuse it with Veterans Day.

@klaus, would you like some too?

Edit: the a’s are Cosmo’s comment.