Make the Unvaccinated Pay!
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wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 12:55 last edited by
"Some employers aren’t ready to impose mandates but may still penalize workers for not getting vaccinated, possibly by requiring them to pay an insurance surcharge costing several hundred dollars a year."
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wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 13:10 last edited by
I am all for making the unvaccinated pay higher insurance rates! These are the type of legitimate steps that can and should be taken. Not just a couple hundred dollars, either… Think smoker premiums…I also would like to see them do away with the free vaccinations for adults. If you are going to get the shot post September 1, expect to pay…
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wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 02:19 last edited by
https://news.delta.com/ed-bastian-memo-covid-19-update
Delta airlines announced various measures that penalize the employees who refuse to get vaccinated, including charging them an extra $200/month each on their healthcare insurance premiums starting in November, and refusing to extend “COVID pay protection” (whatever that is) to the unvaccinated.
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https://news.delta.com/ed-bastian-memo-covid-19-update
Delta airlines announced various measures that penalize the employees who refuse to get vaccinated, including charging them an extra $200/month each on their healthcare insurance premiums starting in November, and refusing to extend “COVID pay protection” (whatever that is) to the unvaccinated.
wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 02:33 last edited by@axtremus already posted. Covid Pay Protection means they pay you while you are in quarantine if you have COVID or been in close contact.
Again, no problem, though $2400 a year seems high.
I am curious as to how the unions respond.
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@axtremus already posted. Covid Pay Protection means they pay you while you are in quarantine if you have COVID or been in close contact.
Again, no problem, though $2400 a year seems high.
I am curious as to how the unions respond.
wrote on 26 Aug 2021, 03:01 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@axtremus already posted. Covid Pay Protection means they pay you while you are in quarantine if you have COVID or been in close contact.
Again, no problem, though $2400 a year seems high.
I am curious as to how the unions respond.
It’s a win over mandated vaccines. That door could be opened wide in a dispute.
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wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 14:48 last edited by
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Insurance companies to require cost sharing from the unvaccinated for their COVID-19 treatments.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Insurance companies to require cost sharing from the unvaccinated for their COVID-19 treatments.
wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 14:50 last edited by@axtremus said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Insurance companies to require cost sharing from the unvaccinated for their COVID-19 treatments.
Above and beyond what they require for overweight people receiving just about any treatment for any of the hundreds of conditions associated with that weight?
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wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 14:51 last edited by
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
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Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 14:54 last edited by Loki@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 15:11 last edited by@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes doesn’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
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@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes doesn’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 16:31 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes doesn’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
Here you go
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wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 16:37 last edited by Doctor Phibes
@mik said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
We seem to be missing the fundamentals of insurance - shared risk.
Not at all - if you're under 25 or you have a car accident, your premium goes up.
Outside of healthcare, insurance companies frequently charge based at least partially on the level of risk exposure.
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wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 16:41 last edited by Mik
It's still shared risk adjusted. The principle remains the same.
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@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes doesn’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
Here you go
wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 18:01 last edited by@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Are smokers also paying coshares on their treatments?
They pay via taxes on cigarettes. Bought a pack lately?
Also study the money given to healthcare on tobacco settlements.
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the taxes don’t go to healthcare…
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Great… Sue China the same way that the tobacco companies were sued.
Here you go
Ok, some of the Federal Taxes are applied to CHIP. They still aren't being used to address the healthcare costs directly related to smoking. And it's still irrelevant to the entire fucking conversation about insurance companies charging coshares for unvaccinated COVID illness costs...
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@mik said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
We seem to be missing the fundamentals of insurance - shared risk.
Not at all - if you're under 25 or you have a car accident, your premium goes up.
Outside of healthcare, insurance companies frequently charge based at least partially on the level of risk exposure.
wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 18:07 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@mik said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
We seem to be missing the fundamentals of insurance - shared risk.
Not at all - if you're under 25 or you have a car accident, your premium goes up.
Outside of healthcare, insurance companies frequently charge based at least partially on the level of risk exposure.
Which, as I've said, is perfectly understandable, and I encourage a higher premium (within reasonable limits compared to the actual expenses incurred) for the unvaccinated.
Now, the other question I have is how do they do this midstream? You can't just change the rules on these people on a policy that was annually renewed last February... You can implement it on the next policy renewal, but you shouldn't be able to change it like this in the middle of their plan. I would like to see a legal challenge...
The Brad
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wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 18:42 last edited by
Unvaccinated may pay more for insurance.
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wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 18:44 last edited by
Unvaccinated share in Covid cost?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
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@doctor-phibes said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
@mik said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
We seem to be missing the fundamentals of insurance - shared risk.
Not at all - if you're under 25 or you have a car accident, your premium goes up.
Outside of healthcare, insurance companies frequently charge based at least partially on the level of risk exposure.
Which, as I've said, is perfectly understandable, and I encourage a higher premium (within reasonable limits compared to the actual expenses incurred) for the unvaccinated.
Now, the other question I have is how do they do this midstream? You can't just change the rules on these people on a policy that was annually renewed last February... You can implement it on the next policy renewal, but you shouldn't be able to change it like this in the middle of their plan. I would like to see a legal challenge...
wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 19:32 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
You can't just change the rules on these people on a policy that was annually renewed
Read the fine print
I had this done on a life insurance policy I own
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Unvaccinated share in Covid cost?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
wrote on 27 Aug 2021, 21:39 last edited by@loki said in Make the Unvaccinated Pay!:
Unvaccinated share in Covid cost?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-health-insurance-cost-treatment/
Wow. Please read your articles instead of picking out headlines that you think match your jihad to punish the unvaccinated.
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They are NOT starting to charge coshares, they are starting to stop waiving the co-shares. There is a difference…
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They are not differentiating between vaccinated and unvaccinated. All patients are going to pay…
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The line about how insurance companies are swimming in profits right now… Wow on so many levels.
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